YoloinOhio Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 In this case it's different than Lawson, since the surgeries are done. Tough to miss camp as a rookie though. Still, I think signing a guy like Byrd (if healthy) on a cheap one year deal and drafting/phasing in Malik to eventually take over would be a smart decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I would love it. We actually might get real torches and pitchforks show up at 1 bills drive. No doubt. Fans would be apoplectic. But Hooker would provide a TON of scheme flexibility for McD to exploit. In this case it's different than Lawson, since the surgeries are done. Tough to miss camp as a rookie though. Still, I think signing a guy like Byrd (if healthy) on a cheap one year deal and drafting/phasing in Malik to eventually take over would be a smart decision. I could get on board with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 This kid is some kind of special talent. Amazing. But the injuries on top of the limited experience would give me some pause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 We could use 2 safeties, so I am not opposed to hiring a vet and then drafting Hooker to let him work it. The guy was top 5 talent before the news broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P51 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 We could use 2 safeties, so I am not opposed to hiring a vet and then drafting Hooker to let him work it. The guy was top 5 talent before the news broke. He still is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 he's still a top five talent. no knee injury so he's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 He still is. Yup. The injury is temporary, if he ends up being as good as it seems for 5 years, no one will care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P51 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 fwiw when they make the comparisons they do it with "what is this college player's ceiling in the NFL" = NFL player name. So he sees his ceiling as Earl Thomas. Could be 2-3 years from now following experience and development. This is a very raw player not unlike his former teammate Darron Lee, who was a HS QB and played LB for only 2 years of his football life, and drafted at age 20. Fair enough, I like to do both, comp coming out and comp ceiling (what they are and what they can be), fwiw... I loved me some Lee, if you recall, I agree on all fronts. Totally different situation when the player will be healthy before training camp. I'd be delighted with Hooker at 10. Yup. If he's there at 10, you take him and never look back. Of course the fans will roast Whaley and company for taking yet another injured player, but I hope Whaley wouldn't let that sway him. Hooker is some kind of rare athletic talent. and yup again (depending on who else may/may not be there.). I would love it. We actually might get real torches and pitchforks show up at 1 bills drive. Me to, sadly enough that might be true. Wayne is spot in IMO, his injuries do not appear to have long term effects or at least serious ones, if the surgeries cause him to fall to 10, we should be joyous, if other teams are short sighted good for us, long term thinking here should apply, not short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 He still is. Fair enough. Poor phrasing on my end. He was *projected* as being taken in the top 5 before the news broke. If he drops to 10, take him and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 The only comparisons for Hooker and Lawson are the injury. Hooker looks to be much more of a game wrecker and worth the wait and risk. Shaq looks to be a solid pick who won't boom or bust and the wait was frustrating because he was drafted to fill 94's spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P51 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) Fair enough. Poor phrasing on my end. He was *projected* as being taken in the top 5 before the news broke. If he drops to 10, take him and run. No worries, phrasing is not my specialty by any means either 😉 just clarifying. Agree with the take him and run at 10, and your take on drafting him (if possible) and adding a vet at Safety being a good off season plan. I wouldn't mind taking 2 safeties in this draft either... Edited March 1, 2017 by P51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 The draft will be hooker-free http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2017/03/81195/malik-hooker-passes-on-the-nfl-draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersN'Bills Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 His injuries are a big part of why I'd choose Adams over him. Do we want Whaley to draft high on more damaged goods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 If only he'd slip like Ragland and we got him in the second I'd cream my pants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 His injuries are a big part of why I'd choose Adams over him. Do we want Whaley to draft high on more damaged goods?he already had the surgeries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 His injuries are a big part of why I'd choose Adams over him. Do we want Whaley to draft high on more damaged goods? Adams is a top 5 pick and will not be there at 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Who goes first Adams or Hooker? I would take either in a second. I don't see one of them available at 10. If so, it would make a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersN'Bills Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Adams is a top 5 pick and will not be there at 10 Oh absolutely. I was only saying I liked Adams better than Hooker. Now, would you take Hooker at 10 or trade down to 15-20 for Peppers? Just to keep it to safeties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Oh absolutely. I was only saying I liked Adams better than Hooker. Now, would you take Hooker at 10 or trade down to 15-20 for Peppers? Just to keep it to safeties. I wouldn't take Peppers before the 3rd round and even then it would depend on who else was on the board. He has no position and no production. He is an ELITE athlete but not a great football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Oh absolutely. I was only saying I liked Adams better than Hooker. Now, would you take Hooker at 10 or trade down to 15-20 for Peppers? Just to keep it to safeties. Peppers is the 5th S on my board. Behind Adams, Hooker, Baker, and Obi-Wan. I'd consider him at 44, but I doubt he's even the highest S on my board at that time, let alone the highest player on my board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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