Big C Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Ok so zach brown and lorax have career years and make the all pro list........ so why on earth are the bills gonna let these guys walk!?!?! Gotta keep one at least you would think. Typical bills to let guys who priduce, leave Zach Brown's play fell off in the second half and Lorax is getting old. However, No one is talkling about Lorax going; I actually think we bring him back at a reasonable price and let him rotate in on D while continuin to beat a beast on teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) Honestly idc who they draft so long as you're drafting to fill needs. BPA is a bad idea for this franchise. Edited January 8, 2017 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 This defensive personnel is still better suited for a 4-3 instead of a 3-4. With the current personnel not including FAs LDE- Shaq Lawson DT- Kyle Williams/Adolphus Washington NT- Marcelo Dareus RDE- Jerry Hughes SLB- Reggie Ragland MLB- Preston Brown WLB- ????????? CB-Darby CB- FA/Draft/Seymour FS- Corey Graham???? SS- ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I mean, it's not like Rex ran a straight 3-4. His playbook involves a lot of looks... including plays with only 10 men. We'll try anything to throw them off! Trick 'em, baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 The Bills need guys like Foster. Not only for his ability, but for the attitude, toughness and leadership on the field. I think Foster would punch a player in the face if he avoided making a tackle. This team needs to have not just the head coach, but their players start holding each other accountable. Sounds like you want to build a bully. Sorry, couldn't help it. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 This defensive personnel is still better suited for a 4-3 instead of a 3-4. With the current personnel not including FAs LDE- Shaq Lawson DT- Kyle Williams/Adolphus Washington NT- Marcelo Dareus RDE- Jerry Hughes SLB- Reggie Ragland MLB- Preston Brown WLB- ????????? CB-Darby CB- FA/Draft/Seymour FS- Corey Graham???? SS- ???????? I have no idea what we're going to do at DB if Gilmore walks. S and CB both become high priorities. I mean, Seymour and Roberson strike me as backups right now, though I know they were high on Seymour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Honestly idc who they draft so long as you're drafting to fill needs. BPA is a bad idea for this franchise. If I'm the Bills, I want that #1 pick to also have a strong leader type of quality. They have drafted too many wallflower types like Dareus and Gilmore. Foster seems to check being worthy of the 10th overall pick and that leadership box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 If I'm the Bills, I want that #1 pick to also have a strong leader type of quality. They have drafted too many wallflower types like Dareus and Gilmore. Foster seems to check being worthy of the 10th overall pick and that leadership box. One of the reasons we need to bring back Lorenzo. Also I remember Adolphus being touted as a leader, but then he goes and gets himself benched week 17. Dunno what to make of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) Washington is a guy that would play 3T, but could give you snaps on the EDGE on early downs and in obvious run fronts. If we go the Richard/Bradley route, we could have a base D of: LEO - Hughes 3-Tech - Kyle 1-Tech - Marcell 4/5-Tech - Washington Sam - Lawson Mike - Ragland Will - Brown (Zach or Preston) Kick Washington off the field in nickel, drop Lawson in at LDE and add a DB. Edited January 8, 2017 by Blokestradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 If we go the Richard/Bradley route, we could have a base D of: LEO - Hughes 3-Tech - Kyle 1-Tech - Marcell 4/5-Tech - Washington Sam - Lawson Mike - Ragland Will - Brown (Zach or Preston) Kick Washington off the field in nickel, drop Lawson in at LDE and add a DB. More or less what I was thinking--I'd love to keep LorAx to play snaps at Leo and Sam when needed as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 If Hooker and Adams are both gone, I think they need to strongly consider Alabama ILB Reuben Foster. Totally agree. Foster and Ragland and Brown would be a good trio. Ok so zach brown and lorax have career years and make the all pro list........ so why on earth are the bills gonna let these guys walk!?!?! Gotta keep one at least you would think. Typical bills to let guys who priduce, leave This narrative is old. They kept Richie and Cordy just last season. But no team can keep everyone. Salary cap was designed to help the competitiveness of the league. Do you pay Tyrod and Gilmore? Gilmore and Zo or Brown? Gilmore and Woods? Who they keep depends on what they do at QB and what the new coach wants to run. But so you feel better, Zo said last week his agent and the Bills have been in discussions. I would like to see him back as well and don't think he will be overly expensive at his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 More or less what I was thinking--I'd love to keep LorAx to play snaps at Leo and Sam when needed as well Lorax might actually be affordable.....great ST as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 More or less what I was thinking--I'd love to keep LorAx to play snaps at Leo and Sam when needed as well It's a tough spot financially. We're probably not going to be inclined to pay him "starter money". Obviously love to keep him around for some veteran leadership and his ST ability alone but I'm not counting on him coming back. Main reason I like the 4-3 Under - it means I don't have to immediately give up on my Bryson Albright dreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 If we go the Richard/Bradley route, we could have a base D of: LEO - Hughes 3-Tech - Kyle 1-Tech - Marcell 4/5-Tech - Washington Sam - Lawson Mike - Ragland Will - Brown (Zach or Preston) Kick Washington off the field in nickel, drop Lawson in at LDE and add a DB. Lawson anywhere but on the d line worries me. If he says he prefers 4-3, let's listen,instead of forcing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Totally agree. Foster and Ragland and Brown would be a good trio. This narrative is old. They kept Richie and Cordy just last season. But no team can keep everyone. Salary cap was designed to help the competitiveness of the league. Do you pay Tyrod and Gilmore? Gilmore and Zo or Brown? Gilmore and Woods? Who they keep depends on what they do at QB and what the new coach wants to run. But so you feel better, Zo said last week his agent and the Bills have been in discussions. I would like to see him back as well and don't think he will be overly expensive at his age. Yeah, we kepy Cordy, Richie and TT... Of course if we decline TT's option that opens up the budget, plus we no longer have a first round salary being paid to our backup QB. That savings can be parlayed into bringing in a vet starting QB, WR, DB, or a keeping guy like Gilmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 One of the reasons we need to bring back Lorenzo. Also I remember Adolphus being touted as a leader, but then he goes and gets himself benched week 17. Dunno what to make of that. It's probably hard to be a leader when you're a rookie drafted in the middle rounds. I'm sure the "whatever" Bills' culture of Dareus and Gilmore probably set in by then. Foster and Ragland would go a long way in filling the leadership void on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 It's probably hard to be a leader when you're a rookie drafted in the middle rounds. I'm sure the "whatever" Bills' culture of Dareus and Gilmore probably set in by then. Foster and Ragland would go a long way in filling the leadership void on this team. I would say Adolphus also need to get a bit stronger another offseason in a conditioning program will do him good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 If we switch,how do the 1st 3 picks fit in? Can Lawson play a 4-3 de,can Ragland play ilb, and where does Washington fit in? Seems like a wasted draft if we switch and they don't work out. Having said this, we are still closer to being a good 4-3 defense than a 3-4. If this is discussed elsewhere, sorry. I tried researching, but difficult on a phone Far too much weight is put on 4-3 versus 3-4... Considering nearly 60% of the game is played in Nickel, this is largely irrelevant these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Far too much weight is put on 4-3 versus 3-4... Considering nearly 60% of the game is played in Nickel, this is largely irrelevant these days. I think it has more to do with complexity of scheme myself To much communication issues and lack of using instinct to due complexity of scheme the last 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 This team will be taking a step back the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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