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50 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

I apologize for my initial disclaimer asking for a sincere response. The last time I brought the topic up of the myriad of ways the world is a better place today than it ever has been, it devolved into a mockery session (you can probably imagine it). I'm fine with that, in that I don't bruise easily, but it was not a productive discussion.

 

I understand your point RE technology. Some technology comes with perils, and the perils that most concern me sound like those that most concern you, ie, spiritual. "Does this make us better people?" "Better" is not objective but let's stick with some version of we'd know it when we see it and not obsess about grey areas. 

 

Lots of technologies take time to make our lives better, and sometimes make it worse for a period. TV, which was a passive entertainment delivery device, is dying. We are replacing it with a medium that is more interactive. One that requires (for now) literacy to engage. But of course, me talking to you via a keyboard and screen filters our humanity one to another. So when some guy here calls me a mother!@#$er and tells me I'm a liar and he wants to drop the hammer on me...that's just the way his online avatar acts. I don't stand in judgment of him--I've been him hundreds of times and used to live for the moment when I could elicit that response (cheers to me: I pissed someone off so much that they can't help but obsess about me in anger--what a terrible thing to do)--but I'd hope we all work to make it better, and improve this new medium. I mean, think how new this is: 12 years ago, there was no iPhone, 30 years ago, I was "chatting" with other college students on message boards on my Vax account (my first Internet appearance is forever captured online as I sing the praises of OJ...nice!).  So when I look at the incivility, it concerns me, but it's also new, and the interface may change in ways that help us be people again. 

 

That side tangent brought to you by way of saying that there are bad actors, and always have been. But the good people always outnumber the bad, and I retain a rigid faith in them, be they rich or poor. 

 

And I also believe in technology being on the verge of solving many problems that have heretofore been unsolvable. Listing the ways is beyond the scope of this digression in this thread, but there are so many things going in the right direction. 

 

So when I push back on the doom and gloom here at PPP, it's from that perspective. I am so grateful to live in this country and in this time, with more opportunities for my child than in any other generation. And even as far as the Bills go, they are at least a constant: Always sucking...so it doesn't ever gets worse. ...

can we go off on the tangets tanget here for a sec?

 

with regard to the member you are referring to, i believe he called you a mother!@#$er because his perception, and i'm sure many others included, is that you don't fight fair.   to have the respect you desire, you must be consistent in your position. as long as one is consistent, they have to be respected for their stance. that does not mean that they have to be agreed with, only that they be given a certain level of respect within said discourse.

 

further, i think said members position is borne out of arguing with idiots. one can get awful tired of trying to lead the horses to water when the horses continually try to put up a resistance to the walk.  personally, for the most part, i find his/her arguments to be quite sound in their basis and if one displays an honest and even handed dialogue, then much can be had from conversing with them.  this is the internet and as i said to you some time ago, big girl panties are required. sure you can have an ego but be prepared to have it rammed right back at you and shoved down your throat. as someone once said, life is 5% what happens to you and 95% how you deal with what happens to you. the same goes for the internet and your reactions therewithin. if you don't find value in something, i suggest you look for other avenues. that you remain suggests to me that there is a certain level of value here, for you.

 

the Bills haven't always sucked, not in my lifetime anyways. tomorrow is a new day and the Sun always rises whether one can see it or not.

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Just now, Foxx said:

can we go off on the tangets tanget here for a sec?

 

with regard to the member you are referring to, i believe he called you a mother!@#$er because his perception, and i'm sure many others included, is that you don't fight fair.  

 

Fair fights are for suckers.

 

His problem is that he doesn't fight at all.  He flops.

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2 hours ago, Foxx said:

can we go off on the tangets tanget here for a sec?

 

with regard to the member you are referring to, i believe he called you a mother!@#$er because his perception, and i'm sure many others included, is that you don't fight fair.   to have the respect you desire, you must be consistent in your position. as long as one is consistent, they have to be respected for their stance. that does not mean that they have to be agreed with, only that they be given a certain level of respect within said discourse.

 

further, i think said members position is borne out of arguing with idiots. one can get awful tired of trying to lead the horses to water when the horses continually try to put up a resistance to the walk.  personally, for the most part, i find his/her arguments to be quite sound in their basis and if one displays an honest and even handed dialogue, then much can be had from conversing with them.  this is the internet and as i said to you some time ago, big girl panties are required. sure you can have an ego but be prepared to have it rammed right back at you and shoved down your throat. as someone once said, life is 5% what happens to you and 95% how you deal with what happens to you. the same goes for the internet and your reactions therewithin. if you don't find value in something, i suggest you look for other avenues. that you remain suggests to me that there is a certain level of value here, for you.

 

the Bills haven't always sucked, not in my lifetime anyways. tomorrow is a new day and the Sun always rises whether one can see it or not.

 

Thank you for the thoughtful feedback. 

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5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Sad that it was child porn when it could have been just about anything..........except aliens.

 

Sitcom math strikes again.

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16 hours ago, Foxx said:

you may be right and i do hope you're right, Tibs.

 

i often try, as a good thought experiment at the very least and a healthy perspective exercize at most, to try to look at things under a different light. one of the other ways i try to look at this whole menagerie is that we are indeed moving along to a better place. one where humanity is becoming freer to pursue higher spiritual aspirations. if technology moves along at the right trajectory, we could certainly see a better future. there will undoubtedly be growing pains as we move into that new age as there always is when the previous age is abandoned to wither on the vine.

 

the one aprehension i have to that utopian view is that i have a hard time seeing past the elites propensity and belief that we are nothing more than chatel. i believe universe is going to have to intervene if we are ever going to breakaway from their control.

 

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