jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 One game makes a career. Awesome. Look great in Seattle too then immediately reverts to trash again His stats with Sammy and Woods in the lineup paint a completley differnent picture of our All Pro Alternate QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Haha. Clever post bro, completely wrong but I score it a 10 for cleverness. Your OPINION of course, you forgot that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 His stats with Sammy and Woods in the lineup paint a completley differnent picture of our All Pro Alternate QB Preach away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 This game showed that Tyrod is capable of having a very good game once in a while. That's all it showed. Â Over the course of the season, he has absolutely been the biggest problem on offense. Same with last season. Â Bye Rex. Bye Tyrod. Thank you, Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Sure got better yesterday with a healthy Woods an Sammy. And I'd like to congratulate Tyrod on his first 300+ yard passing game (although it did take an OT for him to get it). But if you want to play the "what about this game?" game, then I can point to a number where he wasn't so good. I'll wager that if we went back and fourth you'd run out long before I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 And I'd like to congratulate Tyrod on his first 300+ yard passing game (although it did take an OT for him to get it). But if you want to play the "what about this game?" game, then I can point to a number where he wasn't so good. I'll wager that if we went back and fourth you'd run out long before I would. Ill go back and forth if we limit it to the games where both Watkins and Woods played the entire game. This game showed that Tyrod is capable of having a very good game once in a while. That's all it showed. Â Over the course of the season, he has absolutely been the biggest problem on offense. Same with last season. Â Bye Rex. Bye Tyrod. Thank you, Miami. Super "fan" wishing your team loses. You should be proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Ill go back and forth if we limit it to the games where both Watkins and Woods played the entire game. Can we talk about Tyrod running out of bounds at the end of the 4th quarter and saving 24 seconds of clock so that Miami had enough time to get down the field and kick the game-tying FG? When he did that I pointed it out to my son. I said that if that gives the Dolphins enough time to score and the Bills lose, then his mistake cost them the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Again, What is the alternative? Give me a name. Pick a name any name. Elite run game and 31st rated pass game. Â Any qb will do. Only one has done worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) No lets stay on point and go game for game when Woods and Watkins and Tyrod play the entire game. We dont just change the subject when you realize you have Zero shot. Edited December 25, 2016 by jms62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Can we talk about Tyrod running out of bounds at the end of the 4th quarter and saving 24 seconds of clock so that Miami had enough time to get down the field and kick the game-tying FG? When he did that I pointed it out to my son. I said that if that gives the Dolphins enough time to score and the Bills lose, then his mistake cost them the game. Â Wunderlic - 15. Ill go back and forth if we limit it to the games where both Watkins and Woods played the entire game. Â Super "fan" wishing your team loses. You should be proud. Â Wish? No. Upset about it? Hell, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Again, Â What is the alternative? Give me a name. Why should we actually we have many many times and the COT just cannot fathom similar play from those names at a reduced cost because TT is elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 To say that he's not the number one problem as if that somehow validates keeping him as a QB makes zero sense to me since he is absolutely "part" of the problem that needs to be addressed. Coaching, QB, Defense all need to be addressed in a way that shows commitment to excellence, not mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Can we talk about Tyrod running out of bounds at the end of the 4th quarter and saving 24 seconds of clock so that Miami had enough time to get down the field and kick the game-tying FG? When he did that I pointed it out to my son. I said that if that gives the Dolphins enough time to score and the Bills lose, then his mistake cost them the game. No not allowed its defenses fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 No lets stay on point and go game for game when Woods and Watkins and Tyrod play the entire game. We dont just change the subject when you realize you have Zero shot. Week 1 vs Ravens. Tyrod threw for 111 yards and 7 points !!! Â Halfrod the gawd!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 No lets stay on point and go game for game when Woods and Watkins and Tyrod play the entire game. We dont just change the subject when you realize you have Zero shot. What did Aaron Rodgers do missing Jordy Nelson? Cam Newton missing Benjamin, Dak Prescott do missing Dez? Â Got it people need to be on the field to make TT serviceable. The other players make him better not other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 This game showed that the Bills have many issues even though Tyrod had a good game. They need help at safety, lb, dt, cb, wr, rt, k and Tyrod needs to be more consistent. Need to get a qb to replace Manuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 What did Aaron Rodgers do missing Jordy Nelson? Cam Newton missing Benjamin, Dak Prescott do missing Dez? Â Got it people need to be on the field to make TT serviceable. The other players make him better not other way around. Â It's really gotten to the point where anyone arguing that Tyrod isn't the problem is either a relative of his or pitifully stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 What did Aaron Rodgers do missing Jordy Nelson? Cam Newton missing Benjamin, Dak Prescott do missing Dez? Got it people need to be on the field to make TT serviceable. The other players make him better not other way around. 1 player vs your entire recieving corps when your corps are not deep to begin with. Any way you slice it you lose and lose by a huge margin. It's really gotten to the point where anyone arguing that Tyrod isn't the problem is either a relative of his or pitifully stupid. Anybody still arguing that the offense is the problem is being laughed at by most on these boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 player vs your entire recieving corps when your corps are not deep to begin with. Any way you slice it you lose and lose by a huge margin. Â Anybody still arguing that the offense is the problem is being laughed at by most on these boards. Â Other than being totally wrong, you're absolutely right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) 1 player vs your entire recieving corps when your corps are not deep to begin with. Any way you slice it you lose and lose by a huge margin.  Anybody still arguing that the offense is the problem is being laughed at by most on these boards. Back to that i see. So whej Watkins and Woods are out Clay was not tunning open all over the field? The rest of the WRs were not running open a majority of time.  See theres the point a Good QB elevates the play of others heck Cam Newton has turned Ginn into viable.  Bad QBs need other around him to elevate thier play see (Losman, Edwards, EJ, Tyrod)  But that takes a level of help and understanding of football that some might not grasp its ok my counselor can help with that. Edited December 25, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Bring in an offense-minded coach like Gruden who can light a fire under Tyrod to speed things up and actually read defenses. Get him a tall #2. And in the meantime trade up for Trubinsky, whatever it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 player vs your entire recieving corps when your corps are not deep to begin with. Any way you slice it you lose and lose by a huge margin. Â Anybody still arguing that the offense is the problem is being laughed at by most on these boards. I don't argue the "Offense" is the problem - quite the opposite in my mind - Tyrod as QB is THE problem. Receivers are and were getting open, even the less notable receivers, Clay has been open most of the year, the running game is working and if Tyrod didn't break out of the pocket as often, pass protection would be average at worst to good at best. However, leaving receiving yards on the field, failing to hit open receivers, not use the middle of the field, very inaccurate throws high, low and wide have been a persistent issue for him. So, I'd say the "Offense" has been productive DESPITE Tyrod, certainly not because of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Bring in an offense-minded coach like Gruden who can light a fire under Tyrod to speed things up and actually read defenses. Get him a tall #2. And in the meantime trade up for Trubinsky, whatever it takes. And if TT cant process any faster? Evidence he cant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 And if TT cant process any faster? Evidence he cant? Exactly Bobby there is No Evidence he can't . You are coming around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 And if TT cant process any faster? Evidence he cant? Better define his presnap reads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Exactly Bobby there is No Evidence he can't . You are coming around Sure there is his own former coach even said it Better define his presnap reads. So make a simple Offense simpler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 player vs your entire recieving corps when your corps are not deep to begin with. Any way you slice it you lose and lose by a huge margin. Â Anybody still arguing that the offense is the problem is being laughed at by most on these boards. How many more times will you dodge the raiders/Steelers performances ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Why should we actually we have many many times and the COT just cannot fathom similar play from those names at a reduced cost because TT is elite I actually agree with this. We have given the names. Some of you don't agree they are alternatives - fine. They obviously rate Tyrod higher than I do. Edited December 25, 2016 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Sure there is his own former coach even said it  So make a simple Offense simpler Bobby I am confused. I was agreeing with you when you said "There is no evidence he cant". I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Bobby I am confused. I was agreeing with you when you said "There is no evidence he cant". I agree. My bad typo guess i will add english classes to my counseling sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) What did Aaron Rodgers do missing Jordy Nelson? Cam Newton missing Benjamin, Dak Prescott do missing Dez?  Got it people need to be on the field to make TT serviceable. The other players make him better not other way around. Aaron Rodgers had his worst QB rating for any full season and his completion percentage dropped by about 6% to a number lower than Tyrod's this year by about a percent...that's what missing Nelson did for him. His YPA also dropped to the lowest for his career as well by about 1.2 yards over his career average to a number lower than Tyrod's YPA this year...  But he gets a lot of easy 1 and 2 yard TD throws down by the goalline Tyrod doesn't get...  So to Recap...Rodgers without Nelson: 60.7% Completion, 6.7 YPA, 92.6 rating, 46 sacks Tyrod without Watkins: 61.7% Completion, 6.9 YPA, 89.7 Rating, 42 sacks  Yeah...that didn't work out so good for you MAJBobby...maybe you should try another one... Edited December 25, 2016 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 In my opinion - Tyrod is the better football player but not the better QB. EJ & CJ are better in the 2 minute drill, hurry up & with come-back ability. Once we get behind or the 2 minute drill we should be putting EJ in there. Just my opinion. Go Bills!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Aaron Rodgers had his worst QB rating for any full season and his completion percentage dropped by about 6%...that's what missing Nelson did for him. and Yet Still better than TT ever has. Off pace by 500 yards still 3800. Still a 3 to 1 TD:INT RATIO. Still higher than 90 rating still won games with his arm still won games despite having a horrible defense Cam? Dak? Edited December 25, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Yep because Shady was trash before he has Tyrod Taylor as his QB. Â Yes TT helps the run offense but not nearly as much as people want to make it Feel free to break it down for us. Would love a detailed x's and o's analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 and Yet Still better than TT ever has. Cam? Dak? Nice completely deflect when the guy destroyed your position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Nice completely deflect when the guy destroyed your position. Nope but keep trying it js fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) and Yet Still better than TT ever has. Off pace by 500 yards still 3800. Still a 3 to 1 TD:INT RATIO. Still higher than 90 rating  Cam? Dak? Of course they are are a pass based offense...what a stupid argument...Oh, he had all these yards because he throws the ball 150 times more a season than Tyrod...well, no ****?? You mean he had more yards and more TD passes when you throw the ball a lot more? Who would have guessed??  He also had his lowest yards per game at 238 of his career...about 19 more yards than Tyrod averaged last year.  Surely, you can do better than that.  Your argument just got blown up in your face and you now want to turn it into something that obviously would be true based on the number of attempts he had... Edited December 25, 2016 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Nope but keep trying it js fun Thats what you do that is what you always do then deny doing it. Denying it wont make it go away because it is reality and everyone can see it. Everytime you are empty for a response you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Of course they are are a pass based offense...what a stupid argument...Oh, he had all these yards because he throws the ball 150 times more a season than Tyrod...well, no ****?? You mean he had more yards and more TD passes when you throw the ball a lot more? Who would have guessed??  Surely, you can do better than that. And Carolina and their Run Based offense when Cam Lost Benjamin? Sunk their season and exposed Cam didnt it? Dallas and thier run first system Dak was exposed when Dez didnt play? Actually Dak played better when Dez was off the field great for his development.  Sorry that out QB doesnt elevate anyones play instead needs other players to elevate his. Edited December 25, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Think most people would trade our offense for the Cowboys offense in a heartbeat. Fact is we are seventh in scoring and they are sixth. We are exactly .2 points per game behind them. Our problem isnt offense its defense. It took Jim Kelly 4 years to reach his peak. Tyrods been in this offense for two. I have no issue with the Bills taking a qb in thr fourth or fifth round. But our first three selections should be defense. Is tyrod perfect. Not even close. But he is the qb of the seventh best offense in the league. Thats a fact. He should be brought back. There are no better options unless we get incredibly lucky in the draft like Dallas did. A broken down Tony Romo? No thanks unless its a conditional third and the price will be much higher than that for him. Edited December 25, 2016 by TANK2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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