MDH Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Are u watching the games, bill? The d does everything well except cover. It's a big freaking part of the game. This isn't 1974. They haven't rushed the passer well the past, oh, 6 weeks or so either. The two are connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Nope. Get secondary in FA and draft OFFENSE You mean like Robert Blanton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 unfortunately no QB's where we will be drafting worth it. Hopefully J. Peppers falls to us in the 1st. And you know this? Did Derek Carr look like he was going to be this good. Find the freaking QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 They haven't rushed the passer well the past, oh, 6 weeks or so either. The two are connected. I am wondering if Jerry Hughes should be put on a milk carton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 The scheme !@#$ing blows. The players are not being put in a position to succeed. you mean Seymour one on one with Cooper is a bad idea?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 With Whaley and Rex leading the charge, I fully expect us to let Gilmore walk and then use our 1st round pick on his replacement. We have to keep spinning our wheels in the mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 And you know this? Did Derek Carr look like he was going to be this good. Find the freaking QB it really is just that easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I am wondering if Jerry Hughes should be put on a milk carton Did he stay back with Clay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 it really is just that easy For other teams except Bills and Browns. Maybe Terry should do what needs to be done and fire everyone and stop hiring the David Lees of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 They haven't rushed the passer well the past, oh, 6 weeks or so either. The two are connected. I agree, but they are so often in 7-8 coverage schemes that rushing doesn't work. The reason they keep 7-8 guys in coverage, tho, is the overall terrible talent. It's killing them. I saw it in the jax game, and the team was saved by jax receiver drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 you mean Seymour one on one with Cooper is a bad idea?!?!?!? With no one at all over the top anywhere I agree, but they are so often in 7-8 coverage schemes that rushing doesn't work. The reason they keep 7-8 guys in coverage, tho, is the overall terrible talent. It's killing them. I saw it in the jax game, and the team was saved by jax receiver drops. What's strange to me is when we se no rushers but really no deep help either. There have been a bunch of plays this year that I didn't rewatch on all22 but swear we must've had 9 guys on the field! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Even so I think it's a distinction I'd like to point out. In acquiring him, I'd rather find a heady vet that is the right fit even if more pricey over an freakish athlete rookie assuming Rex stays. If it's that important a role and we've seen mental over physical succeed in it - let's get the most athletic rocket scientist we can find with some starting experience Yeah they'd be hard pressed to find an NFL ready safety prospect as Calvin Pryor and he was useless in Rex D as a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I agree, but they are so often in 7-8 coverage schemes that rushing doesn't work. The reason they keep 7-8 guys in coverage, tho, is the overall terrible talent. It's killing them. I saw it in the jax game, and the team was saved by jax receiver drops. They should be able to get decent pressure while sending just 4 most of the time. They've shown recently that they just cant. I'm with you on the dropping 8 though. It's done way too often and in critical situations too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 With no one at all over the top anywhere What's strange to me is when we se no rushers but really no deep help either. There have been a bunch of plays this year that I didn't rewatch on all22 but swear we must've had 9 guys on the field! On that play, seymour, who sucks, was covering a slant that was already being covered by the LB. they schemed it well, but there's no accounting for poor play. Yeah they'd be hard pressed to find an NFL ready safety prospect as Calvin Pryor and he was useless in Rex D as a rookie. Agreed. Gotta do something though -- this secondary is just terrible outside of gilmore and graham. I'm fine with FA signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 On that play, seymour, who sucks, was covering a slant that was already being covered by the LB. they schemed it well, but there's no accounting for poor play. Right but when our late round rookie being forced to cover an elite WR bites-- no help anywhere deep? Not a safety over the top to help clean up with a tackle at least? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Vet safety - not a rookie, if Rex is here 100% agree. First two nights should see a RT, WR and QB... maybe a TE.... If a defensive star falls, sure, but I don't like the rookie safety in Rex's scheme being the right move Can we please make sure the WR is one of these fast running, powerfully built, 6'4" or 6'5" freaks? Hell, he can be slow running. I just want the guy to be really tall and strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I am wondering if Jerry Hughes should be put on a milk carton I believe his hand injury is really affecting his play. Lorax is on fumes.........he's got those rec league cadaver legs going out there. His motor is willing his limbs are not. Shaq is exactly what I expected......leans on OT's and he's a liability in terms of scheme awareness. Loved that stunt he had in the first half where he took one step and ran face first into the guard and gave away the edge for a huge run. Just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 Right but when our late round rookie being forced to cover an elite WR bites-- no help anywhere deep? Not a safety over the top to help clean up with a tackle at least? Like i said , there's a talent problem. The alternative - dropping them into a soft zone with inferior players - would probably have resulted on the usual 15 yard gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Yeah, the Bills historically have not focused enough of the secondary and running backs when it comes to the early rounds of the draft, to include top ten picks and other huge resources. That's the problem. Another is that Whaley should trade away more draft picks, not less. Whaley is great. The Ryans are great. Let's grab a first round corner and fix this thing! I knew there was a way to make this team a winner that I couldn't quite put my finger on. Reggie McKenzie, the GM for the Raiders, started a major rebuild a few years ago. He put together a dominant OL, built mostly through free agency and drafted his top tier young franchise qb at the top of the second round. Their offense is one of the the most explosive offenses in the league being proficient in both the run and passing game. It is not unfair to compare how the Bills and Raiders have done under their respective GMs during the past few years. What is most infuriating is that the Bills had an opportunity to draft Carr with a trade down in the first round and secure a franchise qb that has eluded this bedraggled franchise since the retirement of Jim Kelly nearly a quarter century ago. The Raiders are now serious SB contenders. The Bills continue to flounder. What is keeping our franchise stuck in the mud of generational mediocrity is its own ineptitude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Right but when our late round rookie being forced to cover an elite WR bites-- no help anywhere deep? Not a safety over the top to help clean up with a tackle at least? Seymour had inside help and didn't need to bite on the in-breaking route. Rookie mistake that cost the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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