Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 How many people were picking in from if Philly before they decided to go get Wentz? If you see a Franchise QB stop being scared and go get him. Bills wait for to often and get burnt for it. Loved Prescott but refused to trade up in a position to get him. Instead will trade up for a ILB. Bills loved Cam, didn't want to move up to get him. Far to often they take the conservative approach in the draft. So if they like Watson or Trubinksy then freaking man up and go get them. Is this the year to do that though? I'm all for going up and getting a guy you really like him. But do they think those 2 guys are worth trading up for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Is this the year to do that though? I'm all for going up and getting a guy you really like him. But do they think those 2 guys are worth trading up for? No, the year for doing this was 2014, when we boldly moved up for Sammy Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Is this the year to do that though? I'm all for going up and getting a guy you really like him. But do they think those 2 guys are worth trading up for? I don't know if they think they are or not yet. Those reports will start to surface after season over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Now we want to talk a scenario like this and I will be interested Sign Hoyer (let's say 9M cap hit, high I think but let's go there) Draft Rookie early Come into camp with 6M cap savings at the QB and a legitimate battle between Rookie and Hoyer You want Hoyer to be our QB.....LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Better off drafting one and continuing to develop Jones, plus Skins are keeping Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) You want Hoyer to be our QB.....LOLKnow what is funny is he would be a better passer than Tyrod and lead this team to a .500 record at half the price. Ooo wait never mind that isn't funny it is sad. And reading comprehension I said I could be interested in that. I have my plan and have had it for awhile. Take an early QB Edited November 22, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 No, the year for doing this was 2014, when we boldly moved up for Sammy Watkins. Trading multiple high picks for a WR (in a draft packed with high end WRs) when you don't have a QB. Only the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Cousins probably won't be available until 2018 because the Native Americans will franchise him. He's not happy with the GM, who made him play for peanuts this year on a prove it deal. If they don't open up the bank, he'll be on a one-year franchise deal. Bottom line is we passed on Wilson and Captain Kirk for TfingJ Graham. Any wonder it's gonna be 17 and counting? BTW, I told you so about Cousins, who nobody on this board liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I'd settle for Kirk's cousin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Cousins probably won't be available until 2018 because the Native Americans will franchise him. He's not happy with the GM, who made him play for peanuts this year on a prove it deal. If they don't open up the bank, he'll be on a one-year franchise deal. Bottom line is we passed on Wilson and Captain Kirk for TfingJ Graham. Any wonder it's gonna be 17 and counting? BTW, I told you so about Cousins, who nobody on this board liked.19 million is peanuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 Bills do need a True Pocket Passer. Guarantee you all those poor thrown passes yesterday are better with Cousins. Plus more TD's instead of Field Goals. Watching Cousins put up 375 yds and 3 TDs seems totally alien for the Bills. Redskins also run a lot and he would fit in great here. Sure. Washington will just let him walk out and they'll say goodbye and good luck. Don't ruin all the fun Geez, don't you have some thread to start Cousins is an upgrade.... question is how much of one? Is it enough to throw the $23m a year he will want at him? Is Tyrod at $16.5m actually better value of the two? Moving from Tyrod to Cousins costs you another player or two. I am open minded to it... he has certainly impressed me Cousins since the middle of last season he has played better than I ever thought him capable. He does have great weapons there in Washington though, which he wouldn't here. EDIT: Should also say I think Washington are going to decide that they do LIKE THAT and pay him - they played it absolutely spot on last year with the franchise tag. Was a very, very good decision. I don't care about monetary value I want to win. We payed that bum Mario 20 mil I'm sure we could work out a deal for Cousins. Cousins didn't set the world on fire and has had his ups and downs but Washington saw his potential and stuck with him. Living in Michigan and watching Michigan State play, If the Bills were really smart, go after and make a deal for Connor Cook. Across the board here people found Cook a better QB than Cousins. You could get him without breaking the bank and in the end I think have a better QB. We should have drafted Cook last yr as he was the most NFL ready. I totally agree that he was better than Cousins. Have no clue why Oakland traded up to get him when he will be on the bench while he is there. Whaley wont trade for him. I will take Tyrod over KC any day. You guys are never happy. TT throws for around 160 yds a game and your happy? You must love be mediocre forever. Browns, bears, jets, 49ers... all pick in front of us. Browns might get 2 picks in front of us... All need Qbs. I honestly think Whaley is in your camp that he'd like to see better play there - but he's more likely to keep his job if he can build a playoff team now, not in 3 years. Sure its not a super bowl winner, but getting the monkey off the back would do well for his job security. Chad Kelly is going to look great in a Bills uniform can't wait Cousins looks good but why stop there? Let's get Brady in the off-season. If that falls through, Aaron Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Cousins probably won't be available until 2018 because the Native Americans will franchise him. He's not happy with the GM, who made him play for peanuts this year on a prove it deal. If they don't open up the bank, he'll be on a one-year franchise deal. Bottom line is we passed on Wilson and Captain Kirk for TfingJ Graham. Any wonder it's gonna be 17 and counting? BTW, I told you so about Cousins, who nobody on this board liked. That's not true, I liked Cousins. And Carr as well. Plenty of others who didn't turn out nearly as well, mind you, but I did like those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I wanted the Bills to draft Cousins when he came out. I still would like to see him to be on the Bills, but no way he doesn't sign a long term deal with Washington. He'll be the Redskins QB for the next 7-10 years. So you're saying there's a chance? it wont work we play good defenses...packers suck 5 out of 6 30+ and back to back 40 burgers .....get in line everyone is killing the packers So you genuinely think that Taylor could break his 300 yard cherry against them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjosebillsfan Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Not a chance Washington lets him walk I think so..because Washington won't pay him good money in fact a low ball offer. Bills should go for it. Bills have not had a better QB since Kelly. Need to get better at that QB position for Playoffs to happen. Read https://www.washingtonpost.com/express/wp/2016/11/21/like-him-now-kirk-cousins-deserves-a-redskins-ransom/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Washington is desperate for a franchise QB , giving up a fortune in picks to move up for RG3. They won the lottery with Cousins just like Dak for Dallas. No way they let Kirk walk JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Bills wait far too often and get burnt for it. Truth. You want Hoyer to be our QB.....LOL Brilliant take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjosebillsfan Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Washington is desperate for a franchise QB , giving up a fortune in picks to move up for RG3. They won the lottery with Cousins just like Dak for Dallas. No way they let Kirk walk JMO Washington's gm would have paid Cousins by july money he wanted. But he failed to do so. Cousins is a great QB. He will walk away from Washington. He is worth what he is asking...... Bills should show him $$$$. Cousins makes the bills a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Washington's signing him to a long term contract. We won't have a chance at him. yep. dumb thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Cousins probably won't be available until 2018 because the Native Americans will franchise him. He's not happy with the GM, who made him play for peanuts this year on a prove it deal. If they don't open up the bank, he'll be on a one-year franchise deal. Bottom line is we passed on Wilson and Captain Kirk for TfingJ Graham. Any wonder it's gonna be 17 and counting? BTW, I told you so about Cousins, who nobody on this board liked. 19 million peanuts... Cousins probably won't be available until 2018 because the Native Americans will franchise him. He's not happy with the GM, who made him play for peanuts this year on a prove it deal. If they don't open up the bank, he'll be on a one-year franchise deal. Bottom line is we passed on Wilson and Captain Kirk for TfingJ Graham. Any wonder it's gonna be 17 and counting? BTW, I told you so about Cousins, who nobody on this board liked. He's seemed to turn a corner... even though they considered benching him earlier this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Know what is funny is he would be a better passer than Tyrod and lead this team to a .500 record at half the price. Ooo wait never mind that isn't funny it is sad. And reading comprehension I said I could be interested in that. I have my plan and have had it for awhile. Take an early QB I like Hoyer a lot - but I just worry its Kolb all over again. Guy seems to always be hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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