C.Biscuit97 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 He's a million times ever than I thought he would be. I never got his hype but he has gotten better every year. I'd still want to see it in the playoffs but he is getting big money from the Slurs (of course now he has the BB stink ). I also think he seems like a huge dork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I like Hoyer a lot - but I just worry its Kolb all over again. Guy seems to always be hurt. My hope would be my Rookie beats him cleanly in camp. However if not I am comfortable him starting the season if he gets hurt that happens and I roll my Rookie out. Point being I have high confidence that scenario above's floor is where they are right not .500. With another 10-12 cap space to play with the improve the team around these QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 And what I find particularly amusing is that there are fans / people on this board who believe that to a legitimate candidate as a Rookie, they must be Drafted in 1st or high 2nd Round. And yes, history often favors that approach but there are also the: Brady, Russell Wilson, Dak Prescotts, and Kirk Cousins of the NFL. Essentially, there are QBs to be found in every Draft at various points of the Draft - just need the right evaluator and decision makers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 whomever signs Kirk Cousins, his contract is going to a mistake before 2018 rolls around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 whomever signs Kirk Cousins, his contract is going to a mistake before 2018 rolls around I'm not a fan. @Sportsnet Why Kirk Cousins deserves to become one of the NFL's highest-paid QBs: http://sprtsnt.ca/2giFPLB @LoweDown21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 It's always so funny. I distinctly remember Bills fans killing Washington for 1st trading up for RG3 then in same draft taking another QB. But looks like they found a QB of the future and we still languish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I recall watching parts of the Skins/Bengals game and it looked like he got basically no protection whatsoever. And yet he still nearly led them to a win. Just imagine if he had a line. I'm sure the Skins will find a way to sign him long term but if they don't I'd be all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) And what I find particularly amusing is that there are fans / people on this board who believe that to a legitimate candidate as a Rookie, they must be Drafted in 1st or high 2nd Round. And yes, history often favors that approach but there are also the: Brady, Russell Wilson, Dak Prescotts, and Kirk Cousins of the NFL. Essentially, there are QBs to be found in every Draft at various points of the Draft - just need the right evaluator and decision makers. Teams with a 1st round pick starting: Cardinals Falcons Ravens Panthers Bears Lions Packers Colts Chiefs Jags Rams Dolphins Vikings Giants Eagles Steelers Chargers Bucs Titans Remaining teams with 1st round pick on the roster: 49ers Broncos Browns Bills The trend seems to indicate that 1st round picks are more likely to start, and have long careers. Starters outside the 1st: Brady (total outlier) Tyrod Carr (early 2nd - almost a 1st) Dalton (see carr) Kaepernick (also early 2nd) Osweiler (early 2nd) Siemen Dak and Wilson are obvious outliers as well. Edited November 22, 2016 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) It's always so funny. I distinctly remember Bills fans killing Washington for 1st trading up for RG3 then in same draft taking another QB. But looks like they found a QB of the future and we still languish Does it? Because it seems to me like Cousins is a bit inconsistant by the way....define "languish" because Tyrod is clearly a starting QB.....just not a top 5-10 guy Edited November 22, 2016 by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Teams with a 1st round pick starting: Cardinals Falcons Ravens Panthers Bears Lions Packers Colts Chiefs Jags Rams Dolphins Vikings Giants Eagles Steelers Chargers Bucs Titans Remaining teams with 1st round pick on the roster: 49ers Broncos Browns Bills But there is the occasional anomaly. So let's hope for that anomaly instead of hedging the hardest position to fill early Does it? Because it seems to me like Cousins is a bit inconsistant This is a gem coming from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) But there is the occasional anomaly. So let's hope for that anomaly instead of hedging the hardest position to fill early Yeah - you can consider me of little faith. I'd love for the luck to flip our way - but when 3 guys from the 2004 1st round are still starting and all putting up HOF numbers... and we drafted the 4th guy whos out of the NFL... it's a tad deflating And our next 1st round qb... just sucks. Edited November 22, 2016 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Yeah - you can consider me of little faith. I'd love for the luck to flip our way - but when 3 guys from the 2004 1st round are still starting and all putting up HOF numbers... and we drafted the 4th guy whos out of the NFL... it's a tad deflating And yet another time the waited and got burnt. Wanted Big Ben too scared to go up and get him Settled for Evans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) And yet another time the waited and got burnt. Wanted Big Ben too scared to go up and get him Settled for Evans. I don't know what the price was to move from 13 to 8 where jax was picking - but i assumed a 2nd and a 4th or something? How do you not pull the trigger? Bledsoe was done - we needed a QB to groom and he had everything we wanted. Losman just didn't have "it" - and we all knew it when he was drafted. He was Blaine gabbert before blaine gabbert blaine gabberted his way around the league. Edited November 22, 2016 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I don't know what the price was to move from 13 to 8 where jax was picking - but i assumed a 2nd and a 4th or something? How do you not pull the trigger? Bledsoe was done - we needed a QB to groom and he had everything we wanted. Losman just didn't have "it" - and we all knew it when he was drafted. He was Blaine gabbert before blaine gabbert blaine gabberted his way around the league. Because we like to wait for QBs just want one to fall in our lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 And yet another time the waited and got burnt. Wanted Big Ben too scared to go up and get him Settled for Evans. Donahoe tried to make a deal, but at any rate it's ancient history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Donahoe tried to make a deal, but at any rate it's ancient history. Donahoooooooooooooooooooooooooe!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Because we like to wait for QBs just want one to fall in our lap. Except when they made moves to take EJ Manuel? They dont do it often enough I agree..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Except when they made moves to take EJ Manuel? They dont do it often enough I agree..... We do have Cardale - i don't know what our opinion of him is yet. If there's a guy we like - take a shot. But we clearly went upside with Cardale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 And what I find particularly amusing is that there are fans / people on this board who believe that to a legitimate candidate as a Rookie, they must be Drafted in 1st or high 2nd Round. And yes, history often favors that approach but there are also the: Brady, Russell Wilson, Dak Prescotts, and Kirk Cousins of the NFL. Essentially, there are QBs to be found in every Draft at various points of the Draft - just need the right evaluator and decision makers. and patience! Wilson, Cousins, and Brady all had a learning curve. Wilson passed for more than 300 yards 4 times in his first 3 seasons, Cousins had 17tds and 18 ints through his first 3 years, Brady passed for more than 300 yards in 6 of his first 46 games. Tyrod's start to his career is very very similar to the start of Wilson's career numbers wise. It's always so funny. I distinctly remember Bills fans everyone killing Washington for 1st trading up for RG3 then in same draft taking another QB. But looks like they found a QB of the future and we still languish No need to bash solely Bills fans here. Almost everyone questioned the pick at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Except when they made moves to take EJ Manuel? They dont do it often enough I agree..... You mean trade away from him once and take him later. Not exactly making a Move for EJ lol and patience! Wilson, Cousins, and Brady all had a learning curve. Wilson passed for more than 300 yards 4 times in his first 3 seasons, Cousins had 17tds and 18 ints through his first 3 years, Brady passed for more than 300 yards in 6 of his first 46 games. Tyrod's start to his career is very very similar to the start of Wilson's career numbers wise. No need to bash solely Bills fans here. Almost everyone questioned the pick at the time. On a Bills fan site with people talking cousins so yeah will say it's funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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