gjv001 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 What type of players do you think we have on this 2016 Buffalo Bills roster. Is this roster loaded with players who will rise to the occasion at Gut Check Time and surprise the naysayers by getting this team into the playoffs. Or are there too many "Pay Checkers" on this roster that will make the naysayers gloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Pay Checker - GILMORE!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Sammy "paycheck" BooBoo foot Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Don't forget Captain "Paycheck" Puffalot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Macell "Puff, Puff, Pass the Paycheck" Dareus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 the guaranteed money in contracts nowadays + the risk of long-term serious injuries=less reason to compete. if i can get paid millions, hang around for a couple years, avoid the field as much as possible and walk away at 26, i'd do it 10/10 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 the guaranteed money in contracts nowadays + the risk of long-term serious injuries=less reason to compete. if i can get paid millions, hang around for a couple years, avoid the field as much as possible and walk away at 26, i'd do it 10/10 times. I would too, but I got one question. Why don't other teams have this problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) I'm offended by this topic. Sincerely, Rob Ryan Edited November 15, 2016 by DDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I would too, but I got one question. Why don't other teams have this problem? they probably do. we're just closer to the Bills. quick example: Look at the pats trading Collins to the browns for 'lack of consistent effort'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I honestly think that we just have a few entitled brats on this team that let individual success get to their heads. Especially Gilmore, Dareus even Sammy. It's really sad that some of these guys think they have to play victim all the time. Some guys just don't get it and it's as simple as that unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykaykay Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 What type of players do you think we have on this 2016 Buffalo Bills roster. Is this roster loaded with players who will rise to the occasion at Gut Check Time and surprise the naysayers by getting this team into the playoffs. Or are there too many "Pay Checkers" on this roster that will make the naysayers gloat. The way that the AFC has played out so far, probably means that we will have to run the table. The Bills are a pretty good team but pretty good doesn't run the table. Hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Gut check? I'd say it's massive. Marcel gravymaster Dareus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Can the Bills make the playoffs as a WC team? Yes, but they probably won't. The AFCW is too strong, with three teams with 7 wins. The biggest risk is the AFCW has all three teams make the playoffs. What has to happen for the AFCW to send only a champion and one WC team? The absolute best case scenario is Buffalo wins out, the other non-AFCW teams stumble enough to drop from contention, and the following happens: KC goes 1-6 the rest of the way, beating only Oakland in week 14 Oakland goes1-6 the rest of the way, beating only Denver in week 17 Denver goes 2-4 the rest of the way, beating only KC in week 12 and KC again in week 16 then Buffalo will be 11-5, 8-4 in the AFC, and 3-3 in the AFCE. KC will be 8-8, 6-6 in the AFC, and 3-3 in the AFCW Oakland will be 8-8, 6-6 in the AFC, and 3-3 in the AFCW Denver will be 9-7, 6-6 in the AFC, and 3-3 in the AFCW Obviously this won't happen. The best thing is if one of the three teams becomes dominant, one does OK, and the other collapses. Since the Bills play Oakland and will probably lose, and since Oakland is actually playing better than KC and Denver, let's assume Oakland wins all the head to head AFCW games and wins the division, Denver does well, but KC continues to lose all the but the head to head games. Then it's Denver that is the other WC team and KC that collapses. so KC goes 0-7 the rest of the way Oakland goes 7-0 the rest of the way (oh why not, it doesn't change anything), beating KC in week 14 and Denver in week 17 Denver goes 2-4 the rest of the way, beating only KC in week 12 and KC again in week 16 then Buffalo will be 10-6, 7-5 in the AFC, and 3-3 in the AFCE. KC will be 7-9, 5-7 in the AFC, and 2-4 in the AFCW Oakland will be 14-2, 11-1 in the AFC, and 5-1 in the AFCW Denver will be 9-7, 6-6 in the AFC, and 3-3 in the AFCW (same as before) So obviously Denver won't go 2-4 the rest of the way, but that's OK, they can win a lot more games and get a WC. In this scenario it's KC we have to worry about. They won't go 0-7 the rest of the way. If they go 3-4 and two of their wins are in the AFC, they'll be 10-6, and 7-5 in the AFC, matching the Bills. If it's KC we need to beat out, and they go 4-3 or better, or they go 3-4 with three wins in the AFC, they win. Now go a different way. Assume that Oakland is dominant, KC gets the other WC, and Denver collapses, KC goes 2-5 the rest of the way (or better), beating Denver in week 12 and Denver again in week 16 Oakland goes 7-0 the rest of the way, beating KC in week 14 and Denver in week 17 Denver goes 0-6 the rest of the way Buffalo will be 10-6, 7-5 in the AFC, and 3-3 in the AFCE. KC will be at least 9-7, at least 7-5 in the AFC, and at least 4-2 in the AFCW Oakland will be 14-2, 11-1 in the AFC, and 5-1 in the AFCW Denver will be 7-9, 4-8 in the AFC, and 1-5 in the AFCW Now if Denver is the team we have to beat out, and they go no better than 3-3, even if all three wins are in the AFC, they'll match the Bills record. If it's Denver we have to beat out, if they go 4-2 or better, we lose. It's really hard to imagine those strong AFCW teams all losing enough for the Bills to get in, even if the Bills finish 10-6, if their remaining loss is to an AFC team. The calculations all change if we beat Oakland and end up 11-5 and 8-4 in the AFC. Then it becomes much less unlikely we could beat out one of the AFCW teams. If it's KC we have to beat out, they would need to go no better than 4-2 and have only two more AFC wins. If it's Denver we have to beat out, they would need to go no better than 4-2, with three more AFC wins. These are the scenarios where the Bills tie the third place AFCW team. I don't pretend to understand the tie breakers at that point, and it's not worth the effort to figure it out, since this ain't happenin'. Most likely all three AFCW teams will win at least four of their remaining games, all getting to at least 11 wins, and the Bills won't run the table. The statistical figure I saw of a 20% chance for the Bills to make the playoffs seems too high. Will one of the AFCW teams really collapse in the second half? I don't see it happening barring several injuries to key players or injuries to all the players at a single position. I'm willing to keep the faith, until the fat lady sings. But she's warming up, and the orchestra is playing her intro. Go Bills. Beat the Bengals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 great post UTAH! Seriously...nice details! However... BIlls will lose this week to the Bengals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 it's embarrassing to miss the playoffs this long while UCONN women basketball has won 76 games in a row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 UCONN has a larger salary cap.... it's embarrassing to miss the playoffs this long while UCONN women basketball has won 76 games in a row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 What type of players do you think we have on this 2016 Buffalo Bills roster. Is this roster loaded with players who will rise to the occasion at Gut Check Time and surprise the naysayers by getting this team into the playoffs. Or are there too many "Pay Checkers" on this roster that will make the naysayers gloat. The obstacles in the way of a playoff berth for this team cannot be overcome with a mere "gut check." Can the Bills make the playoffs as a WC team? Yes, but they probably won't. The AFCW is too strong, with three teams with 7 wins. The biggest risk is the AFCW has all three teams make the playoffs. What has to happen for the AFCW to send only a champion and one WC team? The absolute best case scenario is Buffalo wins out, the other non-AFCW teams stumble enough to drop from contention, and the following happens: KC goes 1-6 the rest of the way, beating only Oakland in week 14 Oakland goes1-6 the rest of the way, beating only Denver in week 17 Denver goes 2-4 the rest of the way, beating only KC in week 12 and KC again in week 16 then Buffalo will be 11-5, 8-4 in the AFC, and 3-3 in the AFCE. KC will be 8-8, 6-6 in the AFC, and 3-3 in the AFCW Oakland will be 8-8, 6-6 in the AFC, and 3-3 in the AFCW Denver will be 9-7, 6-6 in the AFC, and 3-3 in the AFCW Obviously this won't happen. The best thing is if one of the three teams becomes dominant, one does OK, and the other collapses. Since the Bills play Oakland and will probably lose, and since Oakland is actually playing better than KC and Denver, let's assume Oakland wins all the head to head AFCW games and wins the division, Denver does well, but KC continues to lose all the but the head to head games. Then it's Denver that is the other WC team and KC that collapses. so KC goes 0-7 the rest of the way Oakland goes 7-0 the rest of the way (oh why not, it doesn't change anything), beating KC in week 14 and Denver in week 17 Denver goes 2-4 the rest of the way, beating only KC in week 12 and KC again in week 16 then Buffalo will be 10-6, 7-5 in the AFC, and 3-3 in the AFCE. KC will be 7-9, 5-7 in the AFC, and 2-4 in the AFCW Oakland will be 14-2, 11-1 in the AFC, and 5-1 in the AFCW Denver will be 9-7, 6-6 in the AFC, and 3-3 in the AFCW (same as before) So obviously Denver won't go 2-4 the rest of the way, but that's OK, they can win a lot more games and get a WC. In this scenario it's KC we have to worry about. They won't go 0-7 the rest of the way. If they go 3-4 and two of their wins are in the AFC, they'll be 10-6, and 7-5 in the AFC, matching the Bills. If it's KC we need to beat out, and they go 4-3 or better, or they go 3-4 with three wins in the AFC, they win. Now go a different way. Assume that Oakland is dominant, KC gets the other WC, and Denver collapses, KC goes 2-5 the rest of the way (or better), beating Denver in week 12 and Denver again in week 16 Oakland goes 7-0 the rest of the way, beating KC in week 14 and Denver in week 17 Denver goes 0-6 the rest of the way Buffalo will be 10-6, 7-5 in the AFC, and 3-3 in the AFCE. KC will be at least 9-7, at least 7-5 in the AFC, and at least 4-2 in the AFCW Oakland will be 14-2, 11-1 in the AFC, and 5-1 in the AFCW Denver will be 7-9, 4-8 in the AFC, and 1-5 in the AFCW Now if Denver is the team we have to beat out, and they go no better than 3-3, even if all three wins are in the AFC, they'll match the Bills record. If it's Denver we have to beat out, if they go 4-2 or better, we lose. It's really hard to imagine those strong AFCW teams all losing enough for the Bills to get in, even if the Bills finish 10-6, if their remaining loss is to an AFC team. The calculations all change if we beat Oakland and end up 11-5 and 8-4 in the AFC. Then it becomes much less unlikely we could beat out one of the AFCW teams. If it's KC we have to beat out, they would need to go no better than 4-2 and have only two more AFC wins. If it's Denver we have to beat out, they would need to go no better than 4-2, with three more AFC wins. These are the scenarios where the Bills tie the third place AFCW team. I don't pretend to understand the tie breakers at that point, and it's not worth the effort to figure it out, since this ain't happenin'. Most likely all three AFCW teams will win at least four of their remaining games, all getting to at least 11 wins, and the Bills won't run the table. The statistical figure I saw of a 20% chance for the Bills to make the playoffs seems too high. Will one of the AFCW teams really collapse in the second half? I don't see it happening barring several injuries to key players or injuries to all the players at a single position. I'm willing to keep the faith, until the fat lady sings. But she's warming up, and the orchestra is playing her intro. Go Bills. Beat the Bengals. You forgot the part about the virgin birth to a unicorn under a rainbow during a full solar eclipse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 The obstacles in the way of a playoff berth for this team cannot be overcome with a mere "gut check." You forgot the part about the virgin birth to a unicorn under a rainbow during a full solar eclipse. Is that real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Is that real? If it's not real to you, then you're a blasphemer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 If it's not real to you, then you're a blasphemer. Primus Sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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