Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) In.defense of Metz, Brady, Brees and Big Ben are in the twilight of their careers and Mariota is just beginning so the smart move is Mariota. And long term, I take him over Wilson. Your inclusion of Dalton I'm assuming was for comedic purposes. I'd take Dalton over any QB the Bills have had since Jim Kelly. And it wouldn't be close. But I get your points. Edited November 14, 2016 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Correct. For YEARS I've heard how terrible Tannehill is around here and yet...he's outperforming the golden boy. Go figure. You are more then welcome to go root for them...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 You are more then welcome to go root for them...... That's it. No legitimate take, no numbers to back anything up. Just the usual low-quality John From Hemet response we've all come to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 That's it. No legitimate take, no numbers to back anything up. Just the usual low-quality John From Hemet response we've all come to know. Frankly....you dont deserve a response because you know the counter arguements to what you just said and dont care to hear or acknowledge them.... So yes....that is all you get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Frankly....you dont deserve a response because you know the counter arguements to what you just said and dont care to hear or acknowledge them.... So yes....that is all you get I feel so cheated. No really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) I'd take Dalton over any QB the Bills have had since Jim Kelly. And it wouldn't be close. But I get your points. I was asking who you would choose among TT, RT and MM, not Dalton. And for the record, I'd take all of them over Dalton. Edited November 14, 2016 by yungmack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 One is a crap sandwich. The other is a crap sandwich with mayonnaise. Our mediocre QB is possibly better than another mediocre QB. What a time to be alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I'd take Dalton over any QB the Bills have had since Jim Kelly. And it wouldn't be close. But I get your points. Does he get to keep Green? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Joe- Are you counting rushing TDs and rushing yards for the QBs? heck no....that means you'd have to look at total QBR which ranks TT 7th, but if you don't like TT total QBR is a worthless stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) That's it. No legitimate take, no numbers to back anything up. Just the usual low-quality John From Hemet response we've all come to know. Here are some numbers you can respond to,Joe: Blended 2015-2016 stats: QB Taylor Tannehill CMP 404 539 ATT 648 851 CMP% 62% 63% Pass Yds 4804 6325 Pass Avg 7.41%. 7.43% Pass TD 30 34 Int 9 19 QBR 68.5 54 RAT 92 90 Rush Yds 930 232 Rush TDs 8 2 Total Yds 5734 6557 Total TDs 38 36 I am not even saying that I think TT is the long term solution, but you are intentionally not giving the guy a fair shake. Edited November 14, 2016 by Tenhigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Here are some numbers you can respond to,Joe: Blended 2015-2016 stats: QB Taylor Tannehill CMP 404 539 ATT 648 851 CMP% 62% 63% Pass Yds 4804 6325 Pass Avg 7.41%. 7.43% Pass TD 30 34 Int 9 19 QBR 68.5 54 RAT 92 90 Rush Yds 930 232 Rush TDs 8 2 Total Yds 5734 6557 Total TDs 38 36 I am not even saying that I think TT is the long term solution, but you are intentionally not giving the guy a fair shake. That -may- be the case. But wrt rushing TD, they're simply not sustainable...ask cam newton. To be a long-term guy, you gotta be a pocket passer. When forced to be such, TT has withered on the vine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Here are some numbers you can respond to,Joe: Blended 2015-2016 stats: QB Taylor Tannehill CMP 404 539 ATT 648 851 CMP% 62% 63% Pass Yds 4804 6325 Pass Avg 7.41%. 7.43% Pass TD 30 34 Int 9 19 QBR 68.5 54 RAT 92 90 Rush Yds 930 232 Rush TDs 8 2 Total Yds 5734 6557 Total TDs 38 36 I am not even saying that I think TT is the long term solution, but you are intentionally not giving the guy a fair shake. Define a fair shake. He's had a season and a half, which is more of a shake than EJ was given. He's had less than 5 truly good games in this year and a half. I'd actually argue less than 3, but people will say I'm biased. He's been in the league for 6 years and looks like he just walked on the field from some JUCO JV tryouts. Yes, the Seattle game was nice. He did incredibly well. However, he has only been consistently bad; never consistently good. For someone who could actually be referred to as a "veteran," that's not a promising sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 That -may- be the case. But wrt rushing TD, they're simply not sustainable...ask cam newton. To be a long-term guy, you gotta be a pocket passer. When forced to be such, TT has withered on the vine. Except when he doesnt And frankly I dispute that TT has to be a pocket passer anyway.....thats horse pucky as well Define a fair shake. He's had a season and a half, which is more of a shake than EJ was given. He's had less than 5 truly good games in this year and a half. I'd actually argue less than 3, but people will say I'm biased. He's been in the league for 6 years and looks like he just walked on the field from some JUCO JV tryouts. Yes, the Seattle game was nice. He did incredibly well. However, he has only been consistently bad; never consistently good. For someone who could actually be referred to as a "veteran," that's not a promising sign. You want to know what else was nice in the Seattle game? Woods was somewhat healthy Percy was on the field for 21 snaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 If you are comparing tyrod vs tannehill, you also need to factor in rush yards. 362 rush yards and 4 touchdowns for Tyrod. 91 rush yards and 1 TD for Tannheill. That is a pretty massive difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Mariota is better than both of them, with a team with less quality talent than Miami or Buffalo...and way less than Dallas BTW. He's something like 25-0 scoring in the red zone this year. If you could have your pick from the 3 of them, which one would you choose?Mariota all day. I know it's Tyrod over Tanny and it would be a no brainer for most unbiased fans. Gungy with the EJ got a chuckle out of me. Didn't know if it was a joke or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) I'd take Dalton over any QB the Bills have had since Jim Kelly. And it wouldn't be close. But I get your points. Obviously, so would everyone. But all 32 teams in the league would rather have Mariota than Dalton, which was my original point that you contested. Define a fair shake. He's had a season and a half, which is more of a shake than EJ was given. He's had less than 5 truly good games in this year and a half. I'd actually argue less than 3, but people will say I'm biased. He's been in the league for 6 years and looks like he just walked on the field from some JUCO JV tryouts. Yes, the Seattle game was nice. He did incredibly well. However, he has only been consistently bad; never consistently good. For someone who could actually be referred to as a "veteran," that's not a promising sign. Dude, you ARE biased. You acknowledged he played well last week but said that he has less than three good games in his career. So you basically just said that last year, a year in which he went 8-6, threw 20 TD's to 6 INT's, that he had at maximum one good game? What is wrong with you? Why are you so obsessed with hating Tyrod Taylor. It's so weird. Edited November 14, 2016 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) That -may- be the case. But wrt rushing TD, they're simply not sustainable...ask cam newton. To be a long-term guy, you gotta be a pocket passer. When forced to be such, TT has withered on the vine. So your issue is with running QBs in general. I tend to agree that it's not really a sustainable path, but judging from what I've seen the guy is never going to turn into Jim Kelly. He doesn't have the height and field vision to be a full time pocket passer. Personally, I think I think the best hope is that TT watches tape on Drew Brees and rolls out as much as possible, that's his cap IMHO. Edited November 14, 2016 by Tenhigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Joe is actually right. I'd rather have a pocket passer as well. 9 outta 10 would. But for some reason I like Taylor. I get more excited watching TT make plays with his feet than I ever did with Flutie. Watching Randall Cunningham as a kid I think made me want to have a QB like that someday. Fun to watch. Plus he seems really cool and love to have him represent WNY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 TYROD TAYLOR'S LAST GAME WAS HIS BEST GAME AS A PRO. Jesus, can we give the guy a week and see if he's able to build on that performance? What kind of person- let alone Bills fan- would take the bye week following Taylor's best game as a pro as an opportunity to start an anti-Taylor thread? Just give it a rest you three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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