Reed83HOF Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Freddie is right on the money here. You run first on the Pats because you need to control clock and keep Brady from scoring 41 points. Ironically, our gameplan against Brissett was to run and control time of possession, but we changed that up for some reason against Brady and it made zero sense. The play calling before halftime is a perfect example, I'm glad you brought that up. It was Jauron-like: No sense for clock, situation, time outs remaining for both teams and what plays needed to be called. It's not that complicated. We were all saying "do not pass goddamn you Lynn" on those last few plays. They did, we paid the price. Didn't cost us the game, but was an embarrassing coaching error. It felt like the 12 men on the field penalty: no respectable coach should ever get called for that. Ever. Problem is on drive 1 we scored 3 and not 7; which you cannot do when you play Brady, you need TDs and not FGs. Once it was 7-3 on the next series, you better do everything you can to score that TD and hope you only give up 3 get a to or grab a punt. If that doesn't happen, you aren't running that much more, especially once you are down 2 scores... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Problem is on drive 1 we scored 3 and not 7; which you cannot do when you play Brady, you need TDs and not FGs. Once it was 7-3 on the next series, you better do everything you can to score that TD and hope you only give up 3 get a to or grab a punt. If that doesn't happen, you aren't running that much more, especially once you are down 2 scores... They got it to 7-3. Then we went three and out. Then they got it to 14-3. Then we went three and out. Game plan: window--with 14:50 to go in the second quarter. Edited November 2, 2016 by The Big Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Has anyone broken this down as related to down and distance? Seems very relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice2145 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 What's wrong with a QB throwing the ball 30 times? Isn't a FRANCHISE QB playing at home supposed to carry his team on his back against an average defense? If this team gets down we have a poor chance of coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 What's wrong with a QB throwing the ball 30 times? Isn't a FRANCHISE QB playing at home supposed to carry his team on his back against an average defense? If this team gets down we have a poor chance of coming back. If we get down 4 points or more at any point in the game, our chances are precisely 9.1%, if Tyrod is the QB (given his record to date). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 They got it to 7-3. Then we went three and out. Then they got it to 14-3. Then we went three and out. Game plan: window--with 14:50 to go in the second quarter. Yup. God damn-it I hate the Fu&k*ng Pats* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I totally agree with the OP. Very poor play calling all game I was ready to shoot myself after the halfback option. Way too many long ball shots to 5th and 6th string receivers I have no idea what they were thinking. They might have been thing oh f@&k 2 scores each quarter almost all TDs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Ugh. I spent 40 minutes this morning painstakingly going over the play by play from the first half. I wanted to show that all this "Mike didn't get the rock more because the Bills fell behind" is a bunch of crap. ALynn designed a game plan to come out throwing on a rainy and windy day, when TD Mike was ripping off huges chunks of yardage on the ground. I'll spare you all the details, but bottom line, this was the Bills play mix in the 1st half 12 runs (not including TT scrambles) 30 passes (when TT dropped back) That's right, ALynn dialed up 2.5x as many pass plays as running plays, in a game they didn't trail by more than 11 points. So please don't give me the BS that the Bills fell behind. We abandoned the run, just like Gailey, Fairchild, Hackett, and all other Bills OC's since Wade Phillips. The worst sequence was with :48 secs left, 2TO's from the Cheats 31 yard line. Three incomplete passes later, Carp doinks the FG and Marcia gets :32 to work. So when Gostokowski makes the 51 yd FG at the end of the half, what do I read in the articles describing it? It's karma, Bills v Pats in a nutshell. No, it's not karma, it's because our coaches are consistently stupid in critical game situations. ALynn had plenty of time and TO's to call a running play. Sweep to the sidelines? Up the gut? Why not? Because we are stupid. We saved all that time for the Cheats and just handed them a 6 point swing. I am so tired of stupid coaches and coordinators for the Bills. I swear that most people on this board could have done a better job than ALynn. We certainly would have given Mike the rock as often as possible. ARGH. Rex Fired Greg Roman for doing this same thing against the Ravens and Jets. A Lynn now did this both against the Dolphins and Patriots. 22 rushes for 67 yards against Miami. This after rushing 44 times for 313 yards against the 49ers the week previous. If Rex fires Lynn do we get David Lee or Aaron Kromer as the next OC? All I can think of is he panicked as most OC's do in that situation and we all saw Chan Gailey do it every time the team was down as little as 3 points. After that first drive that netted a FG the Bills came out in their second series and got a 5 yard run on first down by Gillislee and the next two plays were passes. It stinks that both passes were on the money and dropped probably because of the rain. After that, you would think that the OC would realize IT'S RAINING, so let's run the ball more. Anyway, All i can think of is Gillislee was listed as questionable leading up to the game and he was taking quite a beating during the game. Reggie Bush and Jon Williams were both no help as Bush had 2 carries for -8 yards and Williams 5 carries for 12 yards a 2.4 YPC avg. If Shady's hammy doesn't get better It's too late to bring in Spiller. Perhaps Ray Rice or Knile Davis? Maybe sign Karlos off the Steelers PS if he is finally in game shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 No, if the OC isn't performing, the obvious remedy is to fire Rob Ryan. I thought we were going to hold Whaley accountable! We need to calm down and watch a few more weeks of football. After the first two weeks, we were expecting to be 1-7 at this point. We are not really that far off from playoff. Middle-of-the-road teams often get hot and go on a run. Sit back and enjoy the ride. Last I checked, nobody is consulting us on hiring and firing decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Freddie is right on the money here. You run first on the Pats because you need to control clock and keep Brady from scoring 41 points. Ironically, our gameplan against Brissett was to run and control time of possession, but we changed that up for some reason against Brady and it made zero sense. The play calling before halftime is a perfect example, I'm glad you brought that up. It was Jauron-like: No sense for clock, situation, time outs remaining for both teams and what plays needed to be called. It's not that complicated. We were all saying "do not pass goddamn you Lynn" on those last few plays. They did, we paid the price. Didn't cost us the game, but was an embarrassing coaching error. It felt like the 12 men on the field penalty: no respectable coach should ever get called for that. Ever. No we all were not. There werr alot saying dont get conservative and play for 3. Go get 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 because when you abbreviate his name like that it says "All in" That kind of makes him like a mascot or something so it's hard to get mad at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 The Bills had 95 more rushing yards than the Pats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Guys were open. He put his players in position to make plays. I'm not really mad about his play calling. The offense has issues, but it's not ALynn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Guys were open. He put his players in position to make plays. I'm not really mad about his play calling. The offense has issues, but it's not ALynn. Was this taken from a "Hackett sucks" thread? Are we talking about EJ again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocephuz Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 They got it to 7-3. Then we went three and out. Then they got it to 14-3. Then we went three and out. Game plan: window--with 14:50 to go in the second quarter. One of those 3 and outs was a direct result of back to back drops by Clay and Tate Whatever Lynn's gameplan was it certainly was not at all like the successful Week 4 gameplan. Week 4 was all about the quick game, 3 step drops, slants hitches etc...which TT executed surprisingly well. There was very little of that week 8. ALynn was definitely calling more intermediate and deep routes. Belichick frequently rushed 3 and dropped 8 in the 1st half and naturally this clogged up passing lanes.. so the wuick game wasn't really there to be had. A Lynn probably should have called more draw plays. and more called TT runs to get them out of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Was this taken from a "Hackett sucks" thread? Are we talking about EJ again? It's Groundhog Day in buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 It's Groundhog Day in buffalo Has been since the 90s really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 One of those 3 and outs was a direct result of back to back drops by Clay and Tate Yep. Players make plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Yep. Players make plays. We've come to accept that after a 3 and out the D will give up a score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 We've come to accept that after a 3 and out the D will give up a score. Which would be a grave distortion of an otherwise salient and reasonable concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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