ExiledInIllinois Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Keep Texas, give them back California and throw in New England and Illinois Just Chicago... Rest of Illinois is just corn and soy fields... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Keep Texas, give them back California and throw in New England and Illinois Sorry no I do not want my US citizenship questioned by a "birther" when they find out I was born in Chicago. Now Texas was illegally seized from Mexico and still has many ties including electrical grid so is natural to be returned to Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Sorry no I do not want my US citizenship questioned by a "birther" when they find out I was born in Chicago. Now Texas was illegally seized from Mexico and still has many ties including electrical grid so is natural to be returned to Mexico. How was it seized illegally? Texas fought for it's independence from Mexico the same way Mexico fought for it's independence from Spain and the United States from Britain. Only difference is Texas opted to later join another country, leave that country, and be forced to rejoin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 How was it seized illegally? Texas fought for it's independence from Mexico the same way Mexico fought for it's independence from Spain and the United States from Britain. Only difference is Texas opted to later join another country, leave that country, and be forced to rejoin. Texas was first annexed in 1845 by the US. They didn't just "join." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Texas was first annexed in 1845 by the US. They didn't just "join." No, they didn't just join. They negotiated a treaty with the US, which was ratified by the House, Senate, and people of the Republic of Texas, that allowed Texas' entry into the United States without first going through a territorial phase. It was a completely voluntary act by Texas, and an "annexation" only in the broadest sense of the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 No, they didn't just join. They negotiated a treaty with the US, which was ratified by the House, Senate, and people of the Republic of Texas, that allowed Texas' entry into the United States without first going through a territorial phase. It was a completely voluntary act by Texas, and an "annexation" only in the broadest sense of the word. But the US would have overpowered a weak Texas. They had to negotiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 But the US would have overpowered a weak Texas. They had to negotiate. This would be the same Texas that just fought for and won independence from Santa Ana's Mexico, and was negotiating their recognition by Mexico as a sovereign nation with the British supporting them? I'm going to guess that your knowledge of the Annexation of Texas doesn't go beyond reading the words "Annexation of Texas" and the incorrect assumption that "annexation" is involuntary and requires the threat of force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 This would be the same Texas that just fought for and won independence from Santa Ana's Mexico, and was negotiating their recognition by Mexico as a sovereign nation with the British supporting them? I'm going to guess that your knowledge of the Annexation of Texas doesn't go beyond reading the words "Annexation of Texas" and the incorrect assumption that "annexation" is involuntary and requires the threat of force. No. "Overpowered" as in being weak economically/financially, and defensively. The same Texas that was negotiating recognition as a sovereign nation also gave that very same sovereignty up to the US willfully for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) No, they didn't just join. They negotiated a treaty with the US, which was ratified by the House, Senate, and people of the Republic of Texas, that allowed Texas' entry into the United States without first going through a territorial phase. It was a completely voluntary act by Texas, and an "annexation" only in the broadest sense of the word. There was no treaty. Texas was admitted via joint resolution of congress, which was/is pretty questionable under international law. It's the same way the u.s. swiped Hawaii. At least Texas had a vote on the subject. Edited August 17, 2016 by billsintaiwan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 TIL Antibacterial soap is no better than regular soap at preventing sickness, and children who use it regularly are more likely to develop peanut allergies and hay fever. CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 There was no treaty. Texas was admitted via joint resolution of congress, which was/is pretty questionable under international law. It's the same way the u.s. swiped Hawaii. At least Texas had a vote on the subject. Treaty of Annexation, April 12, 1844. http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/texan05.asp. A major cause of the Mexican-American war. Negotiated between the US and the independent Republic of Texas, and ratified by the voters of Texas. It was an entirely voluntary entry in to the Union by Texas. The joint resolution of Congress was to suspend the territorial requirements preceding statehood, which had ****-all to do with international law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 All right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 TIL approximately 80% of "close door" elevator buttons aren't connected to anything CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 TIL approximately 80% of "close door" elevator buttons aren't connected to anything CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 awesome Awesome would have been putting a picture of Bran next to it instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 TIL approximately 80% of "close door" elevator buttons aren't connected to anything CBF I remember the electrician @ work telling me this... Also, the crosswalk button too. I was skeptical. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 TIL all competitors in the Olympics get a participation medal. CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 TIL all competitors in the Olympics get a participation medal. CBF and hugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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