B-Man Posted June 3, 2020 Author Posted June 3, 2020 Louisville “BBQ Man” used to feed police for free. He was shot and killed during the protests while cooking for people in his neighborhood. BASED ON RECENT HISTORY, DEMOCRATS WILL SOON BE COMPLAINING THAT TRUMP DIDN’T CRACK DOWN ON THE RIOTS FAST ENOUGH: Former Virginia governor backs Trump crackdown on riots.
IYKYK Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: Time to castigate but not time to respond on the merits. BillsTime, 1, westside2 and BuffaloGal, 0. Scared of the snowflakes, I see. That is not dominant. Sad! You're still on the Stfu list. 1
The Poojer Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 I posted a link yesterday that he was identified as one of the peaceful protesters that opened fire in the crowd that led to his being shot and killed, allegedly he was caught on video from his own BBQ shack as well as other businesses 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Louisville “BBQ Man” used to feed police for free. He was shot and killed during the protests while cooking for people in his neighborhood. BASED ON RECENT HISTORY, DEMOCRATS WILL SOON BE COMPLAINING THAT TRUMP DIDN’T CRACK DOWN ON THE RIOTS FAST ENOUGH: Former Virginia governor backs Trump crackdown on riots. 2 1
whatdrought Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: as much as i despise Trump, the one thing I always told my MAGA friends was he nailed the "what do you have to lose" piece when speaking to black voters during the last election Yep. It's sad that it continues this way year after year where liberals continue to do more harm than good with their polices, and "conservatives" (not that I see many true conservatives left in the political arena) don't actually work to conserve. I have liberal friends who genuinely want to see people helped and believe that the government should be a part of that... I just get so stymied with how anyone can examine any part of our government and think "yes! that's working so well lets give them more power and money to play with." That's the saddest part of the rioting and everything going on is that those in power see this as another chance to take more control and to grow government influence. 1
billsfan1959 Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: The economics, education, etc that have caused or allowed a large portion of the black community to be mired in criminality is not at issue for the cop on the street that suddenly finds himself/herself in a violent struggle. Their only thought is to make sure they are safe and their community is safe. If the actions of the suspect (black, white, green, or yellow) reveal a threat to the life of the officer or another, that officer is justified in the use of deadly force. If that suspect is killed, he becomes a statistic to be used and abused for political purposes. Meanwhile, the cops that are just trying to keep themselves and their community safe feel the brunt of those political shenanigans. They are called racist. Spit on. Attacked. If the underlying issue is the political machine, let’s fight that. . Let’s stop the constant attack on the good, ethical, and moral police officers that protect this country on a daily basis. 99% of officers fall into this category. The George Floyd case is one we can all seemingly get behind. Black, white, blue. It’s turned into screams to defund racist police. With commentators, athletes, politicians all fanning flames and talking about systemic racism in law enforcement as it is unconverted fact. It isn’t a fact. Amen, brother. We can talk all day about the reasons why black communities are disproportionately represented as both victims and offenders of violent crimes. The reasons are complex, traditionally ignored by leaders and politicians, and have very little to do with law enforcement. The reality is this: That is the state of many black communities across this country and an overwhelming number of police officers are just trying their best to keep the honest, decent, people of those communities safe. We have had a national drumbeat, for so long, that police officers are racist and are singling black citizens out to brutalize, that it has just become a fact for most people... 2 2
SectionC3 Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, westside2 said: You're still on the Stfu list. Hoax. I run the lists around here. There is no such list. Also, copying the libs to own the libs is unbecoming. Be better! 20 minutes ago, GG said: Going back in time is hard, isn't it? Which President recounted a story of his grandmother switching the side of the street because there were black youth on the sidewalk? What was the reaction from the left? Which President, after that event, never took a "controversial" position whenever a racial issue popped up in his terms? Who personalized the Trayvon Martin incident? Under whose terms did racial strife worsen? What did the great communicator do to diffuse the tensions, instead of ratcheting them up? And we’re back to square one. How did Obama “ratchet[] . . . up” tensions?
GG Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: Hoax. I run the lists around here. There is no such list. Also, copying the libs to own the libs is unbecoming. Be better! And we’re back to square one. How did Obama “ratchet[] . . . up” tensions? No more doing your homework for you. 1
plenzmd1 Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: The economics, education, etc that have caused or allowed a large portion of the black community to be mired in criminality is not at issue for the cop on the street that suddenly finds himself/herself in a violent struggle. Their only thought is to make sure they are safe and their community is safe. If the actions of the suspect (black, white, green, or yellow) reveal a threat to the life of the officer or another, that officer is justified in the use of deadly force. If that suspect is killed, he becomes a statistic to be used and abused for political purposes. Meanwhile, the cops that are just trying to keep themselves and their community safe feel the brunt of those political shenanigans. They are called racist. Spit on. Attacked. If the underlying issue is the political machine, let’s fight that. . Let’s stop the constant attack on the good, ethical, and moral police officers that protect this country on a daily basis. 99% of officers fall into this category. The George Floyd case is one we can all seemingly get behind. Black, white, blue. It’s turned into screams to defund racist police. With commentators, athletes, politicians all fanning flames and talking about systemic racism in law enforcement as it is unconverted fact. It isn’t a fact. absolutely, and lets fight like to hell to get the bad ones arrested as well, not hidden to protect the shield. Same as we need to fight like hell to get those who put police in jeapaordy in jail and prosecuted . Again, the facts presented in the original report I linked said blacks die more often when unarmed than whites, almost 50% more. If you do not believe that is a stat worth examining, i sure do. Edited June 3, 2020 by plenzmd1 1
Sig1Hunter Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: absolutely, and lets fight like to hell to get the bad ones arrested as well, not hidden to protect the shield. Same as we need to fight like hell to get those who put police in jeapaordy in jail and prosecuted . Again, the facts presented in the original report I linked said blacks die more often when unarmed than whites, almost 50% more. If you do not believe that is a stat worth examining, i sure do. Interesting enough that unarmed is defined as holding a brick, club, or using a vehicle. Michael Brown was “unarmed” yet was killed when he grabbed ahold of Officer Wilson’s gun. Again, context matters. “Unarmed” doesn’t mean “not a deadly threat”. 5
SectionC3 Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, GG said: No more doing your homework for you. A convenient excuse for someone unable to intelligently answer the question.
IYKYK Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Hoax. I run the lists around here. There is no such list. Also, copying the libs to own the libs is unbecoming. Be better! And we’re back to square one. How did Obama “ratchet[] . . . up” tensions? Says the guy who copies others. Be better than that. Edited June 3, 2020 by westside2
B-Man Posted June 3, 2020 Author Posted June 3, 2020 Antifa Gets Chased Out of Suburbia by Suburbanites Who Aren’t Having It 2 1
billsfan1959 Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: absolutely, and lets fight like to hell to get the bad ones arrested as well, not hidden to protect the shield. Same as we need to fight like hell to get those who put police in jeapaordy in jail and prosecuted . Again, the facts presented in the original report I linked said blacks die more often when unarmed than whites, almost 50% more. If you do not believe that is a stat worth examining, i sure do. Absolutely it is a statistic to examine; however, we certainly shouldn't assume it is because there is something inherently wrong with Law Enforcement. Any more than we should assume there is something inherently wrong with the black race because of things like, even though they make up 12.8% of the population, they account for 38% of all killings of police officers, 53% of all murder arrests, 29% of all rape arrests, 54% of all robbery arrests, 34% of all aggravated assult arrests, and 38% of all violent crime arrests in general. There is much that needs to be examined. Unfortunately, it always seems that it must begin with the police... 1
GG Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: A convenient excuse for someone unable to intelligently answer the question. I believe that I answered and provided specific examples. But apparently it's not enough for you. So, long. 1 1
SectionC3 Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, GG said: I believe that I answered and provided specific examples. But apparently it's not enough for you. So, long. You provided specific examples of certain things Obama did. But you didn’t provide a specific example of how he fanned racial tensions, or whatever the phrase in play is. Just more alt-right tropism that you can’t back up with facts. And so it goes. 10 minutes ago, westside2 said: Says the guy who copies others. Be better than that. Nope. I mock them. You’re simply copying me. That’s not dominant. It also makes me think that you might belong on the newly-created Lowlife List. I’ll have my eye on you in that respect, sir. 1
B-Man Posted June 3, 2020 Author Posted June 3, 2020 Jonathan Turley: ‘Antifa and anarchists have hijacked Floyd protests but left won’t admit it’ 2
IYKYK Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Absolutely it is a statistic to examine; however, we certainly shouldn't assume it is because there is something inherently wrong with Law Enforcement. Any more than we should assume there is something inherently wrong with the black race because of things like, even though they make up 12.8% of the population, they account for 38% of all killings of police officers, 53% of all murder arrests, 29% of all rape arrests, 54% of all robbery arrests, 34% of all aggravated assult arrests, and 38% of all violent crime arrests in general. There is much that needs to be examined. Unfortunately, it always seems that it must begin with the police... This is the elephant in the room. You can talk about racist cops (which statistics debunks that myth), but the black on black crime is the real problem. The African American community needs to step up and be serious about all the violence and killing in minority communities by minorities. 2
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Interesting enough that unarmed is defined as holding a brick, club, or using a vehicle. Michael Brown was “unarmed” yet was killed when he grabbed ahold of Officer Wilson’s gun. Again, context matters. “Unarmed” doesn’t mean “not a deadly threat”. I've said this for a long time. Michael Brown had arms, he tried to use them to kill an officer. It was going to end one way or the other. The way it ended was the best possible outcome of the worst possible choices. 3 1 1
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