Maury Ballstein Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Probably already discussed, but pats* will be looking to move up in the draft IMO. If there's someone they like they'll package the 2 second rounders to move up. Conversely the Bills may be interested in moving down to acquire extra picks. Allegedly draft is uber deep on DL, can pick up a stud in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Allegedly draft is uber deep on DL, can pick up a stud in the 2nd.deep in interior DL but not at pass rusher. Top heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 NE draft history says they are more likely to trade down , pick up extra picks and spread out the salary cap and risk of injury over more players. 2007. 28th overall. Traded Down. 2008. 7th overall. Traded Down. 2009. 23rd overall. Traded Down. 2010. 22nd overall. Traded down. 2011. 17th overall. Tackle Nate Solder. 2011. 28th overall. Traded Down. 2012. 27th overall (Aquired from New Orleans) Traded Up. 2012. 31st Overall Traded Up 2013. 29th overall. Traded Down. 2014. 29th overall. DT Dominque Easley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Conversely the Bills may be interested in moving down to acquire extra picks. I hope that this is true, but I will not believe it until I see it. Whaley seems to have a propensity towards trading up, and for over spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) dont laugh so hard people. we may do the same thing with Gilmore for the same reason.. can't afford the monster contract coming, so trade him and get some big value well before FA hits... in fact, hmm.. if you believe we will have to pay TT and Sammy next year (yes) .. you actually probably want to do this. Now. Edited March 16, 2016 by 8and8-->NoMore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 i believe I saw that the highest they can move up is 29th in the 1st rd. due to the parameters of their punishment. Yeah. If they acquire a pick better than 29 they will lose it and gain the 29th pick back. Punishment is essentially their first 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 dont laugh so hard people. we may do the same thing with Gilmore for the same reason.. can't afford the monster contract coming, so trade him and get some big value well before FA hits... in fact, hmm.. if you believe we will have to pay TT and Sammy next year (yes) .. you actually probably want to do this. You are 100% correct, especially if Tyrod improves. It could cost 18 or 20 million per season to keep him if he gets better, which imo he will. Gilmore will probably cost 13 million per season. I think that he is a good player but I don't thing he is worth that much cap space. Jmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 i believe I saw that the highest they can move up is 29th in the 1st rd. due to the parameters of their punishment. Interesting tidbit. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 See ya!!! CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 @theMMQB .@SI_PeterKing’s Mailbag: The math behind why the @Patriots traded @Chan95Jones to Arizona http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/03/15/chandler-jones-trade-nfl-new-england-patriots-arizona-cardinals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 @ProFootballTalk Ty Law: Belichick's personnel approach has cost Patriots championships http://bit.ly/1U8ImYY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 @ProFootballTalk Ty Law: Belichick's personnel approach has cost Patriots championships http://bit.ly/1U8ImYY Yeah. Just look Ty Law's release and a Patriots championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 @ProFootballTalk Ty Law: Belichick's personnel approach has cost Patriots championships http://bit.ly/1U8ImYY if only we had someone who's personnel approach could match Belichicks successes and failures...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) if only we had someone who's personnel approach could match Belichicks successes and failures...... The record shows that they have had many whiffs regarding personnel acquisition despite the genius reputation. Edited March 16, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 @ProFootballTalk Ty Law: Belichick's personnel approach has cost Patriots championships http://bit.ly/1U8ImYY Belichick is the greatest head coach in NFL history. But he's a mediocre personnel man. The best motivator, the best game planner, the best in-game decision maker, the best offensive system, the best espionage unit.......... and the best QB........they should have won 5-7 of the last 10 Super Bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Belichick is the greatest head coach in NFL history. But he's a mediocre personnel man. The best motivator, the best game planner, the best in-game decision maker, the best offensive system, the best espionage unit.......... and the best QB........they should have won 5-7 of the last 10 Super Bowls. I missed all his success as a head coach prior to Tom Brady. Amazing how much an all time great qb helps. See Bill Ealsh with and without Montana. Edited March 17, 2016 by C.Biscuit97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I missed all his success as a head coach prior to Tom Brady. Amazing how much an all time great qb helps. See Bill Ealsh with and without Montana. Walsh did just fine with Steve Young. He built his team into a powerhouse and left a great team in Seifert's hands when he walked away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) I missed all his success as a head coach prior to Tom Brady. Amazing how much an all time great qb helps. See Bill Ealsh with and without Montana. You're welcome to recall that 2008 Pats team. Edited March 17, 2016 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Walsh did just fine with Steve Young. He built his team into a powerhouse and left a great team in Seifert's hands when he walked away. Walsh's last year in SF was 1988. Yoing didn't become a full time starter until 1992.You're welcome to recall that 2008 Pats team.The team that lost 5 more games than the previous year and didn't make the playoffs after going to the SB the year before? He's a really good coach whose success is tied to one of the greatest players ever. Joe Gibbs won 3 SBs with 3 different Qbs, none who are close to be in the discussion of greatest qb ever. That's a much better coaching job IMO. Edited March 17, 2016 by C.Biscuit97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felonious Monk Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 NE draft history says they are more likely to trade down , pick up extra picks and spread out the salary cap and risk of injury over more players. 2007. 28th overall. Traded Down. 2008. 7th overall. Traded Down. 2009. 23rd overall. Traded Down. 2010. 22nd overall. Traded down. 2011. 17th overall. Tackle Nate Solder. 2011. 28th overall. Traded Down. 2012. 27th overall (Aquired from New Orleans) Traded Up. 2012. 31st Overall Traded Up 2013. 29th overall. Traded Down. 2014. 29th overall. DT Dominque Easley. It's an interesting strategy. Know who you want. If that guy isn't there, trade down. If there's someone you really like, trade up. Doesn't seem like they ever settle for BPA or best player at position of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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