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God no. Shady is much better than Murray.

 

Let's not get too excited about our crowded backfield yet; McCoy is still the man. Karlos has yet to show he can stay on the field for any length of time. His injuries, especially the concussion, should be a concern. And while I hope Gillislee is still in the picture next season, I'm not ready to promote him beyond #3 yet.

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So,

 

Shady grew up in PA and before Chip Kelly and this season was playing for the team he loves. Passionate guy despite being a bit of a jackass. Chip is gone. What if Shady approached Whaley about getting traded back to Philly? Would you trade him straight up for DiMarco Murray? Shady + late rounder for DiMarco? Yes to either one for me. Thoughts and opinions?

Meh - I'm not even sure I trade Karlos for Murray, who has a very similar running style btw. McCoy creates something from nothing regularly which is an asset. If I had the Cowboys line id rather Murray. Not in b-Lo though

God no. Shady is much better than Murray.

 

Let's not get too excited about our crowded backfield yet; McCoy is still the man. Karlos has yet to show he can stay on the field for any length of time. His injuries, especially the concussion, should be a concern. And while I hope Gillislee is still in the picture next season, I'm not ready to promote him beyond #3 yet.

Gillisee is a perfect fit, back up to McCoy and can fill in on play calls designed for McCoy. Karlos is the change of pace agile bulldozer.. Get another battering ram in the mix not named boobie and It's a nice group.

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If the OP didn't have 800+ posts I would be sure that we were being trolled. In fact, I almost hope that we are being trolled. The general premises is to trade a Pro Bowl RB on the #1 rushing team in the NFL for a guy that was, at times, 4th on his depth. On top of that they have virtually the same contract (guarantees are a little different). This actually ranks with the worst ideas ever suggested.

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So,

 

Shady grew up in PA and before Chip Kelly and this season was playing for the team he loves. Passionate guy despite being a bit of a jackass. Chip is gone. What if Shady approached Whaley about getting traded back to Philly? Would you trade him straight up for DiMarco Murray? Shady + late rounder for DiMarco? Yes to either one for me. Thoughts and opinions?

 

My buddy, an Eagles fan, sitting opposite me right now while eating his lunch says "I'd do this in one second."

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So,

 

Shady grew up in PA and before Chip Kelly and this season was playing for the team he loves. Passionate guy despite being a bit of a jackass. Chip is gone. What if Shady approached Whaley about getting traded back to Philly? Would you trade him straight up for DiMarco Murray? Shady + late rounder for DiMarco? Yes to either one for me. Thoughts and opinions?

Murray was a one year wonder playing behind what was arguably the best OL in the league.

McCoy has done it every year.

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DeMarco is 5 months older than LeSean. He has been running for two less seasons but is a two time pro bowler compared to McCoy's three. They both signed 5 year $40 mil deals in 2015 but the breakdowns and guaranteed $ are different.

 

They both have identical career rushing avg ypc at 4.6. Before Murray came to Philly for a relatively poor 2015 season he had two very strong seasons in Dallas where his avg. ypc were 5.1 and 4.7 respectively. He is not as productive a receiver as McCoy but otherwise statistically they seem fairly close in rushing ability. I don't follow Murray much so can't say if this is true in talent.

 

career stats:

 

Murray: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MurrDe00.htm

 

McCoy: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McCoLe01.htm

 

Contract #s:

 

http://overthecap.com/player/lesean-mccoy/761

 

http://overthecap.com/player/demarco-murray/621

 

Wouldn't seem to be that impossible a deal so I was wondering why DeMarco is considered an average back as opposed to having a bad season at the hands of Chip? Before 2015 his career avg ypc was 4.8.

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No one is taking McCoys ridiculous contract. His money is ridiculous. I hope we can restructure it soon.

 

We paid way too much. I'm still in the tiny camp!saying we would have been better keeping the Alonso. Sure, he didn't play much or al that well, but his $ and possibility contributing to the team at all make it better than a banged up, declining McXcoy and large $.

 

Like it or not, McCoys best years are behind him. He will still get a lot of yards but RB's are a dime a dozen. Gilliselee, Karlos have shown young backs can be just as impactful; Dixon as a 3rd back this year and Herein wasn't too bad, either. Plus, Thigpen can run.

 

Even if Alonso played 50% of the games at 70% his former self he, in my opinion would have been the better choice over an overpaid McCoy.

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DeMarco is 5 months older than LeSean. He has been running for two less seasons but is a two time pro bowler compared to McCoy's three. They both signed 5 year $40 mil deals in 2015 but the breakdowns and guaranteed $ are different.

 

They both have identical career rushing avg ypc at 4.6. Before Murray came to Philly for a relatively poor 2015 season he had two very strong seasons in Dallas where his avg. ypc were 5.1 and 4.7 respectively. He is not as productive a receiver as McCoy but otherwise statistically they seem fairly close in rushing ability. I don't follow Murray much so can't say if this is true in talent.

 

career stats:

 

Murray: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MurrDe00.htm

 

McCoy: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McCoLe01.htm

 

Contract #s:

 

http://overthecap.com/player/lesean-mccoy/761

 

http://overthecap.com/player/demarco-murray/621

 

Wouldn't seem to be that impossible a deal so I was wondering why DeMarco is considered an average back as opposed to having a bad season at the hands of Chip? Before 2015 his career avg ypc was 4.8.

What kind of OL does Dallas have compared to Philly? That should answer your question about Murray's abilties as a runner . Murray benefited from having huge holes to run through in Dallas . Those didnt exist in Philly. Shady can be productive even behind subpar lines. This is why most consider Murray to be average and Shady elite.

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Absolutely asinine idea. Let's get real here. First and foremost, if the Bills traded McCoy to anyone, they would immediately eat a $10.5 million cap penalty in 2016. His cap number to remain with the Bills is merely $7.675 million for 2016. That all by itself makes the idea beyond idiotic. Now let's look at Murray. He is guaranteed $7.0 million in salary in 2016. Why on earth would the Bills trade a $7.675 million cap hit in 2016 for a $10.50 million accelerated cap penalty AND then also pay Murray another $7.0 million? They wouldn't because it's a stupid idea. Murray is also a complaining cry baby that bitches about his number of carries. Exactly what we don't need in WNY.

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