Blokestradamus Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 will be interesting to see where he goes in the draft. Could be a Preston Brown type? Or do you think 3rd is too high? I'm going to compare his Combine numbers to Brown and probably Denzel Perryman to get a feel for his testing numbers. I don't see why he needs to be as big as he was in Mobile, trimming down to 240-245 is plenty of bulk (same with Ragland). His 3-cone will be the biggest drill for me, Preston was big/slow but had a sub 7 second 3-cone (78th percentile at 9lbs above 'average' weight). I think 3rd round would be fine because I think he could be an eventual starter. Has the athletic profile on tape to play ST roles as a rookie so he can stay on the 46-man game day roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) I'm going to compare his Combine numbers to Brown and probably Denzel Perryman to get a feel for his testing numbers. I don't see why he needs to be as big as he was in Mobile, trimming down to 240-245 is plenty of bulk (same with Ragland). His 3-cone will be the biggest drill for me, Preston was big/slow but had a sub 7 second 3-cone (78th percentile at 9lbs above 'average' weight). I think 3rd round would be fine because I think he could be an eventual starter. Has the athletic profile on tape to play ST roles as a rookie so he can stay on the 46-man game day roster. perryman really came in late in the season for SD last year. He totally outplayed Donald butler and could lead to him getting cut. If the 3rd rolls around and we haven't taken a LB yet I'd like to take a shot on Perry. Edited February 18, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 perryman really came in late in the season for SD last year. He totally outplayed Donald butler and could lead to him getting cut. If the 3rd rolls around and we haven't taken a LB yet I'd like to take a shot on Perry. I think Perry is less instinctive than Perryman which hurts but they should have similar times despite a 15 pound weight disparity. Denzel was a mid 2nd pick so he might end up in a similar range but there's so much talent in that range, it's feasible that some guys pegged in the 2nd last until the mid 3rd. Not a lot of stud players in the class but the Day 2 depth is kinda staggering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I did make the effort to include the Lott trophy nomination. I have listened to you when you've spoke about his character so I thought it was only fair to include it. God knows I give out enough flack to those with character concerns. I don't love him as a player but I still like him. Will be firmly behind Jack, Smith, Ragland, Brothers & Martinez in my ILB rankings but I think there's something to work with there. Our LB guy doesn't even have Perry on the list as an ILB. He's our 11th-ranked OLB34. But high character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I'd use a top 5 pick on Myles Jack if I had it. Dude has great explosion and speed, which is one of the main reasons he can play on both sides of the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I'd use a top 5 pick on Myles Jack if I had it. Dude has great explosion and speed, which is one of the main reasons he can play on both sides of the ball The BYU game where he played 25 snaps at slot corner put me over on the kid. He's my #1 prospect in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Mayock: Arizona LB Scooby Wright is a 3rd-rounder. Instincts and toughnes will make him NFL starter eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I hope Bills bring in a FA for LB so we don't have to draft LB this year. Injuries, bad scheme fits, "the jury's out" guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 This is key for Ragland. @JonTWCNews #Steelers GM Colbert says he sees evaluation of LBs changing. Lateral speed more important in passing league. Forced to cover and blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 @NFL_CFB Alabama's @ReggieRagland out to prove he's draft's top LB. Follow his #PathtotheDraft: http://bit.ly/1RpZwgw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 This is key for Ragland. @JonTWCNews #Steelers GM Colbert says he sees evaluation of LBs changing. Lateral speed more important in passing league. Forced to cover and blitz Also key for the ones who can't. Ragland, Fackrell move up, Kwiatkowski, Schobert, Norris, McKinzy down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Looks like possible nerve damage for Jaylon @profootballdoc #JaylonSmith Good news: no more knee brace & walking. Bad news: wearing an AFO, indicates nerve issue. Too bad. https://twitter.com/thejaylonsmith/status/702584594550398976 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Looks like possible nerve damage for Jaylon @profootballdoc #JaylonSmith Good news: no more knee brace & walking. Bad news: wearing an AFO, indicates nerve issue. Too bad. https://twitter.com/thejaylonsmith/status/702584594550398976 What does that mean for his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 What does that mean for his career? it could mean he doesn't play until 2017, and may never be same player. See tweet/pic below from former NFL ortho. Similar injury to Sean Spence, I believe he was out 2 years https://twitter.com/profootballdoc/status/703020075079438336 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 @walterfootball #UCLA LB Myles Jack checks in at 6-1, 245 with 33 5/8-inch arms at the NFL Combine - http://walterfootball.com/combine2016LB.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Sounds like guys like Darron Lee and Su'a Cravens will be highly thought of by Pittsburgh. I agree with Colbert, that's why I argued earlier in this thread that Ragland is overrated. Ragland is not a great blitzer and he can't cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 @walterfootball NFL Combine Weigh-in Analysis for the linebackers posted - http://walterfootball.com/combine2016weighinLB.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) @MRidenourABJ #NotreDame LB Jaylon Smith said knee has no nerve damage. Torn ACL, LCL @RapSheet Difficult day for #NotreDame LB Jaylon Smith, who had his medicals. Ankle & knee nerve issues, teams believe he's out for 2016 -- at least What team is going to go with the McGahee like pick for Smith in the 1st round? Out for rookie year? NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reports multiple NFL teams believe Notre Dame linebacker prospect Jaylon Smith, who is coming off knee surgery, will miss the entire 2016 season. Edited February 26, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 @RapSheet #NotreDame OLB Jaylon Smith (knee, ankle), had a $5M loss of value insurance policy. If he paid the premiums, he gets the payout tax-free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 What does that mean for his career? @albertbreerIf you want a comp for Notre Dame LB Jaylon Smith's nerve damage -- it's what Marcus Lattimore was up against when he came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 @SiriusXMNFL .@UCLAFootball LB Myles Jack (@MylesJack) says his knee is feeling great...already running AUDIO:http://bit.ly/1LjsXl6 #NFLCombine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 @darrenrovell Jaylon Smith's insurance will pay him $700K tax free if he falls out of 1st round, gets $100K w/each missed pick after. Policy from ISI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Watch: Notre Dame LB Jaylon Smith at Combine (4:29)Notre Dame linebacker Jaylon Smith talks with the media at the 2016 NFL Combine about his knee injury and recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 2016 NFL Combine: Jaylon Smith fails medical exam with multiple teams Confirming several reports, Notre Dame linebacker Jaylon Smith has failed his combine physical with multiple teams, according to league sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 So, now what happens with Smith? Does some team scoop him up in the 4th round and stash him away for a year or two? I hope it's us. Sean Spence has become a good player for the Steelers, and his injury appears to have been similar. And IMO the Bills made a huge blunder not drafting La'el Collins with one of their late round picks last year - he's on his way to becoming an All Pro guard with the Cowboys. My point is, after Round 3, the risk is worth it. The Bills have to get out of their own way a bit and take the long view. They don't need another Jonathan Meeks in Round 6. Take a gamble on a guy with a tremendous upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 So, now what happens with Smith? Does some team scoop him up in the 4th round and stash him away for a year or two? I hope it's us. Sean Spence has become a good player for the Steelers, and his injury appears to have been similar. And IMO the Bills made a huge blunder not drafting La'el Collins with one of their late round picks last year - he's on his way to becoming an All Pro guard with the Cowboys. My point is, after Round 3, the risk is worth it. The Bills have to get out of their own way a bit and take the long view. They don't need another Jonathan Meeks in Round 6. Take a gamble on a guy with a tremendous upside. Some team will draft him no later than the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Some team will draft him no later than the 2nd round.Doesn't sound great on Smith. I don't take him before round 4 with all the defensive talent in this draft. And I loved smith as a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Doesn't sound great on Smith. I don't take him before round 4 with all the defensive talent in this draft. And I loved smith as a player I think one of these perennial playoff teams will take him and "redshirt" him for 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I think one of these perennial playoff teams will take him and "redshirt" him for 2016. I'd be too worried to chance him in rounds 1 or 2, but if he's there in round 3 I'm sprinting--maybe even trading up if he gets past pick 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I'd be too worried to chance him in rounds 1 or 2, but if he's there in round 3 I'm sprinting--maybe even trading up if he gets past pick 64 So you'll be happy when Belichick grabs him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBillsBlues Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 If you are looking to read more about some of the linebackers in the draft here is the first part of a multiple part series looking at some of the linebackers available in the draft. http://buffalowdown.com/2016/02/20/buffalo-bills-2016-draft-linebacker-options-part-i/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 @salmaiorana Here's my story on Notre Dame LB Jaylon Smith from the combine. Big injury risk, should the #Bills think about... http://fb.me/2XG0GAr1M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Really good interview with Smith. He's a really intelligent guy with great character. I hope he makes it back to 100% health to have a full career. @KimJonesSports Jaylon Smith tells me he thinks he's the best player in draft, he just can't show it right now. Interview coming up on @nflnetwork #Combine @RapSheet Ian Rapoport Retweeted Kimberly Jones Teams say he's been incredible professional handling a difficult injury @NFL_CFB .@MikeMayock talked to 5 different teams about Notre Dame LB Jaylon Smith, and every team's told him "it's bad" on the knee. @NFL_CFB #NFLCombine not over yet, but Noah Spence shaping up to be one of its losers --> http://bit.ly/1QlN82m @KimJonesSports Jaylon Smith to @NFLNetwork: "One thing we do know is I'll be 100 percent again. We just don't know when." #Combine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 @NFL_CFB #NFLCombine not over yet, but Noah Spence shaping up to be one of its losers --> http://bit.ly/1QlN82m Good, maybe he falls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 @NFL_CFB #NFLCombine not over yet, but Noah Spence shaping up to be one of its losers --> http://bit.ly/1QlN82m Good, maybe he falls He's a wildcard given the character concerns. @NFL_CFB Each team told @MikeMayock, "what a great kid, but what a shame." Smith suffered the knee injury in the Fiesta Bowl vs. Ohio State. @NFL .@OhioStAthletics' @DLeeMG8: 11' 1" broad jump. Wow! Impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Only been vouching for Lee for months. In this day and age of football you need guys like him more than Ragland. He is gonna blow up this combine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 @NFL_CFB Top broad jumps for LBs at #NFLCombine: GOLD: Darron Lee, 11'1" SILVER: Travis Feeney, 10'10" BRONZE: Leonard Floyd, 10'7" @NFL_CFB Top verticals for LBs at #NFLCombine: GOLD: Travis Feeney, 40" SILVER: Leonard Floyd, 39 1/2" BRONZE: Devante Bond, 37 1/2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Only been vouching for Lee for months. In this day and age of football you need guys like him more than Ragland. He is gonna blow up this combine Yeah, we really need to add athleticism to our LB corps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Only been vouching for Lee for months. In this day and age of football you need guys like him more than Ragland. He is gonna blow up this combine 4.47 40 for Lee at 232 lbs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Perry might run well highly underrated LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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