papazoid Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 one way or the other, Whaley is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 IF that's true, then I fear that Whaley is a goner. That would suck, since I doubt they'll be able to pry Eric DeCosta out of Baltimore. Best we could hope for is to get a Will McClay or Chris Ballard (Dallas and KC, respectively) Yeah, I totally agree with the part about Whaley being a goner if the report is true. I'm not sure how much of a bad thing it'd be though. I've found his work to be very uneven and average at best overall. I don't know enough about potential GMs to give an opinion on them yet, but being able to work well with Rex and find the kinds of players needed by the current schemes is paramount. Strange - the showdown is over how the OFFENSE has played? o_O I mean, I want to see Sammy featured too, but chalk some some of that up to a first year QB. But the D, that's been the letdown... The Roman and Watkins discussions don't bode well for Whaley. He's on the defensive about his moves. Watkins shouldn't be held to the standard of what the Bills gave up for him. Once a guy is on the team that shouldn't matter. But the GM absolutely should have to answer for it. His successes have come at very big costs. Wakins is a fine player, but at the cost of an elite one. Clay is a very good all-around TE, but he's got a top 5 TE deal. Shady is the biggest success as he is an elite back. The combination of his sizable new contract and trading Kiko equates to a very fair amount of compensation. The other big issue is Taylor, who is certainly a success - but that was all Rex. Whaley's contributions at QB look very unfavorable compared to what Rex did (whether or not Taylor is a long term answer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 one way or the other, Whaley is gone. OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I do agree tho that Whaley did not have final say on Rex. And it's possible he could quit. If that happens it's all going to flip. No GM comes in and is told "here's your coach" and is happy about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) EJ Manuel had the "it" factor. Well, at least Sammy is worth fighting about. Should be no surprise to anyone if DW is gone, sorry Pollyannas and shills. Edited December 20, 2015 by Rico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 the person pulling the strings.....Russ Brandon new GM = hope/high expectations = ticket sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Typical Bills. You hire a HC who guts a top defense because it's not his defense or his system. The team struggle all year especially on defense and the GM gets blame over offensive decisions. Yep, that's Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 the person pulling the strings.....Russ Brandon new GM = hope/high expectations = ticket sales Mr. conspiracy strikes again. A new GM is not going to make fans buy tickets. Please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 the person pulling the strings.....Russ Brandon new GM = hope/high expectations = ticket sales I think Pegs is still in charge. Brandon being the ultimate yes-man is going to go 100% with whichever way the wind blows. Would Russ spin a DW departure as a positive though? Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Lots of broken Whaley hearts in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 La Can Fora doesn't know jack about the Bills and more often than not the opposite of what he says is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Whaley over Ryan every time. Pegulas made a huge mistake if they were the ones who made the Rex call over Whaley's choice. Good for short term sales, bad in the long run. Whaley can build a team and if he doesn't do it here, he'll do it some where else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 La Can Fora doesn't know jack about the Bills and more often than not the opposite of what he says is true He's La Conjecture! Too many are quick to buy into his BS as he's been proven many times to be full of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 He's La Conjecture! Too many are quick to buy into his BS as he's been proven many times to be full of I suspect there's some fire behind the smoke this time. This isn't the first time we've heard things like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I think this is the other way around. Whaley is and should be well respected throughout the league. He won't have any trouble finding a job as he'll be courted by several teams. He's not under contract so he's the one with the leverage. The Bills may have an uphill climb to convince him to sign a new contract. Having the head coach not report to him was a bad start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) How often is lacanfora right? I seem to Remember him saying a lot of stuff about the bills that never comes true. I don't understand the Whaley hate. Anytime I get in a debate about him the only thing the Whaley haters have to say is he traded cassel but 2 months before you were complaining that he traded for cassel. I understand this is buffalo and 2015 and we absolutely have to complain about every little thing but damn. Edited December 20, 2015 by Not at the table Karlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I suspect there's some fire behind the smoke this time. This isn't the first time we've heard things like this. Could be, but I don't buy it based on other media sources who are closer to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Well, at least Sammy is worth fighting about. Should be no surprise to anyone if DW is gone, sorry Pollyannas and shills. There's no defending the statement that people that think Whaley is a good GM are Pollyannas or shills. Sorry, but that's a stupid thing to say. the person pulling the strings.....Russ Brandon new GM = hope/high expectations = ticket sales The never ending conspiracy theory to place 16 years of blame on one person is hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Echo!! @MatthewWGR When the team loses, the Sharks circle and there are plenty of willing journalists to help. You get to the point of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 This is going to work out really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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