26CornerBlitz Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Basically, yes...you've got it. Next it'll be wishes for Trump instead of the Pegulas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Multiple reports that the Browns want to much so Whakey is being shrewd like a good GM does and doesn't make panic moves like the OP would. We were a drive away from being 4-3 without our starting QB two RB, and 2 WR. I don't see us being that desperate for a bunch of mediocre high paid lineman. We just need to get healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Cassel for a pick = fleece Kiko for McCoy = fleece Incognito = what a play Darby 2nd round = wow Tyrod = looking good What an opinion. Troll on. EEEEEEEEJ and stuff. Cassell didn't net them a pick. Kiko for McCoy is not a fleece. The Bills got fleeced giving 25 mill guaranteed to a declining RB. Incognito is fine but I don't think he will be back next year with our cap situation and the raise he will warrant. Darby is great, Tyrod has been fine. I don't want Whaley making desperate moves to try to save his job and in the meantime I don't want the next GM to have to clean up his mess. Edited November 3, 2015 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Cassell didn't net them a pick. Kiko for McCoy is not a fleece. The Bills got fleeced giving 25 mill guaranteed to a declining RB. Incognito is fine but I don't think he will be back next year with our cap situation and the raise he will warrant. Darby is great, Tyrod has been fine. I don't want Whaley making desperate moves to try to save his job and in the meantime the next GM will have to clean up. Inside information? I doubt it. Speculative conjecture? Most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Whaley should be fired for hiring Rex, the guy who sucks. How is this a hard concept to grasp? So they both should be fired 7 games in on a team that is currently one game out of the playoffs? Im sure they'd attract all kinds of top tier GM and HC talent after doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 So they both should be fired 7 games in on a team that is currently one game out of the playoffs? Im sure they'd attract all kinds of top tier GM and HC talent after doing that. No, they'll get fired at the end of the year when we miss the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 No, they'll get fired at the end of the year when we miss the playoffs. I'd take that bet. Not the missing the playoffs part, but the firings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) I'd take that bet. Not the missing the playoffs part, but the firings. Rex won't get canned, but Whaley at best will have his role diminished. Or he won't be retained. Edited November 3, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Cassel for a pick = fleece Kiko for McCoy = fleece Incognito = what a play Darby 2nd round = wow Tyrod = looking good What an opinion. Troll on. EEEEEEEEJ and stuff. At the end of the day, the Cassel machinations resulted in the the Bills essentially trading a 2015 fifth round pick and a 2017 seventh round pick for a 2015 6th round pick and a 2017 fifth round pick. That sounds to me like an even swap given that future-year picks are discounted relative to picks one can make today. That is, a 5th rounder now is more valuable than a 5th rounder 2 years down the road because the GM may not even be there to capitalize on it. Edited November 3, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Cassell didn't net them a pick. Kiko for McCoy is not a fleece. The Bills got fleeced giving 25 mill guaranteed to a declining RB. Incognito is fine but I don't think he will be back next year with our cap situation and the raise he will warrant. Darby is great, Tyrod has been fine. I don't want Whaley making desperate moves to try to save his job and in the meantime I don't want the next GM to have to clean up his mess. Didnt we get a 5th for him? CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Rex won't get canned, but Whaley at best will have his role diminished. Or he won't be retained. It really depends on the actual working relationship between Rex and Whaley, not the speculative one. If they get along and are on the same page no one is going anywhere. If they dont, my guess is Whaley will lose the power struggle this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I doubt he's asleep. He doesn't seem gun shy about making trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Didnt we get a 5th for him? CBF We gave up two picks to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 We gave up two picks to get him. Ya I saw the post right before mine CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 It really depends on the actual working relationship between Rex and Whaley, not the speculative one. If they get along and are on the same page no one is going anywhere. If they dont, my guess is Whaley will lose the power struggle this time. I just don't envision a scenario where we miss the playoffs after pouring assets on this team and Whaley is still the head honcho in football ops. Working relationship or no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Whaley should be fired for hiring an incompetent HC whose ineffectiveness has rendered all of the good moves Whaley has made, moot. He made a way better roster, and screwed it all up by hiring hacks. It's his fault. So Pegula should fire him and his wife too then? Because as i recall they were really impressed with Ryan too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man. He's right, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 So Pegula should fire him and his wife too then? Because as i recall they were really impressed with Ryan too He owns the team. However, Terry and Kim should realize they aren't football people, and their personal opinions don't hold much weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Shoulda went with Bon Jovi when we had the chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Whaley should be fired for hiring Rex, the guy who sucks. How is this a hard concept to grasp? I thought both Pegulas hired the HC... with DW's buy-in. Rex reports to them, not Doug. Maybe we should mount a crusade to fire the owners next. Next it'll be wishes for Trump instead of the Pegulas. Beat me to it... as usual. Rex won't get canned, but Whaley at best will have his role diminished. Or he won't be retained. What do you envision Whaley's diminished role to be in 2016 - abdicating drafting responsibilities to Rex along with signing FAs, or just calling out for sandwiches and coffee for the staff? Shoulda went with Bon Jovi when we had the chance! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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