BringBackFergy Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 accually I started the thread because I cant get that Sammy Watkins ankle injury out of my head. It has always been a concern of mine for a while now it just the latest injury and the complaints from the bengals took the cakeIf we won the game and Sammy had 10 targets and 2 TD's would it really matter?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilLions Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I attribute my bad knees to playing many later-year soccer games on artificial surfaces. And they always seems to hurt for a number of days after games played on artificial surfaces, when I would have almost no pain after playing on natural grass. Given the investment in player salaries, my vote would be for a natural grass field as it would help ensure at least half their games would be played on a a safer surface. Some articles: Mixed review, but interesting difference between men and women (maybe due to higher impact/weights): http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sportsdoc/Grass-vs-Turf-does-it-affect-injury-rate.html Also mixed but showing some evidence for difference between football (more injuries) and soccer: http://sportswithoutinjury.com/truth-artificial-turf-injuries/ Claim of definitive increase in injury: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/01/us-football-idUSBRE84002Q20120501 OK, so that is a bit much, but in case anyone is interested, there is a ton or search results for "artificial grass and knee injuries". I am biased based on experience but the evidence seems to support the case that artificial grass contributes to more injuries for football players. You might weigh in a bias of their being business interests supporting studies that refute such claims. If I was T.P., I'd make the investment in a Green Bay like natural surface. It may even pay him dividends with less injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) I attribute my bad knees to playing many later-year soccer games on artificial surfaces. And they always seems to hurt for a number of days after games played on artificial surfaces, when I would have almost no pain after playing on natural grass. Given the investment in player salaries, my vote would be for a natural grass field as it would help ensure at least half their games would be played on a a safer surface. Some articles: Mixed review, but interesting difference between men and women (maybe due to higher impact/weights): http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sportsdoc/Grass-vs-Turf-does-it-affect-injury-rate.html Also mixed but showing some evidence for difference between football (more injuries) and soccer: http://sportswithoutinjury.com/truth-artificial-turf-injuries/ Claim of definitive increase in injury: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/01/us-football-idUSBRE84002Q20120501 OK, so that is a bit much, but in case anyone is interested, there is a ton or search results for "artificial grass and knee injuries". I am biased based on experience but the evidence seems to support the case that artificial grass contributes to more injuries for football players. You might weigh in a bias of their being business interests supporting studies that refute such claims. If I was T.P., I'd make the investment in a Green Bay like natural surface. It may even pay him dividends with less injuries. http://www.totalprosports.com/2015/10/19/justin-tucker-missed-field-goal-levis-stadium-sinkhole/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fbpages&utm_campaign=fb Edited October 21, 2015 by BringBackFergy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 With all these Tiny Tims like Sammy, Goodwin etc the next field should be made of memory foam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 With all these Tiny Tims like Sammy, Goodwin etc the next field should be made of memory foam LOL. Why even have a field. They should just play on X Box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Interesting to note that we seem to have an artificial turf not used by any other team in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 slips prevent acls and other strains, not cause them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 The turf is very slippery when wet. I'm surprised more players aren't falling. Was messing around on the field while Jim Kelly was giving the chalk talk in the one of the suites. Rained earlier but was drying out. We started kicking extra points and anytime we planted our feet we hit the ground. Entire group of kids came out laughing at us. slips prevent acls and other strains, not cause them. slips could cause injuries when your foot gets grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Great topic Protocol...hope the front office and the new owners who have enough money to replace it are listening. We have been injury plagued for years now, despite always having a top training and strength/conditioning staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 From what I have read that a grass field for us would be hard because of our winters. I wonder if there are any cold weather teams that have grass. Frozen tundra, Da Bears, Cleveland, to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 all artificial playing surfaces are a scourge on humanity. this might sound silly, but i really feel bad for high school kids who hardly ever get to play on dirt/grass. When I think about playing high school football, i can still smell the grass, mud on our practice field. where i live, most of the fields are made of this awful awful stuff. yes, they are slippery as hell when moisture hits them. if there is any sun the field turns to an oven. and who hasn't had the pleasure of picking those stupid rubber slivers out of clothes, ears, eyes, mouth, etc.? i am not the least bit surprised they are suspected of increasing injury and i hope the Bills have a grass field again one day. of course it can be done...if they do it in Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Green Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I wonder if having all these different types of field has something to do with it? I understand if we went to all natural fields there would still be a variance from one stadium to the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilLions Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 http://www.totalprosports.com/2015/10/19/justin-tucker-missed-field-goal-levis-stadium-sinkhole/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fbpages&utm_campaign=fb Wow. Haven't seen that happen before.... Didn't say he got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Wow. Haven't seen that happen before.... Didn't say he got hurt. Sink holes in natural turf are possible...but it changed the outcome of the game. Just like a WR or TE slipping and missing a pass could change the outcome of the game. The grass isn't always greener on the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Bring in George Toma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobu Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 If the Packers can have it, there is no doubt we can too. That being said it is a lot more expensive. There is no 12 year warranty on a natural field. The Pack will occasionally re-sod portions of the field late in the season $$$ They don't let anything happen on the field during the season. No concerts, nothing. They have had a lot of problems with their in-ground heating systems. Lambeau does get rough late in the year, but hell that is how football was meant to be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Get Matt Damon to grow a grass field in Buffalo. Hell, he can grow potatoes on @#$%ing Mars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVABillsFan Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Watch a game at FedEx field when Washington plays at home. That grass field ifs horrible. Hell, watch any game on grass and you can see a boatload of divots. A poorly kept grass field can be just as dangerous as a slippery field turf in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Terry may have plans to collect all the gas that many years of crappy football has produced under Buffalo.. the last 15 years have made the ground beneath the Ralph a primary source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I'm fully backing this thread - our A-Turf has been slippery ever since it was installed. I'd even be in favor of Field Turf if we can't have natural grass (though I don't see why not, as been pointed out, several cold weather stadiums have 'em). No more rando slipping - unless it's the other team's players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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