YoloinOhio Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) @ProFootballTalk: Zach Brown not fined for tackle that injured Tyrod Taylor http://t.co/8JekRsERMV Apparently indicating that it was an incorrect call and not horse collar Edited October 17, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) @ProFootballTalk: Zach Brown not fined for tackle that injured Tyrod Taylor http://t.co/8JekRsERMV Apparently indicating that it was an incorrect call and not horse collar Same play on Brady results in jail time and a rule change. Edited October 17, 2015 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 @ProFootballTalk: Zach Brown not fined for tackle that injured Tyrod Taylor http://t.co/8JekRsERMV Apparently indicating that it was an incorrect call and not horse collar theyre right, it wasnt horse collar, grabbed jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 On a somewhat related note. The best QB of all time Joe Montana said on the NFLN that back in his day the some players sprayed silicone on their jerseys So the defender couldn't hold on too the jersey when trying that stunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Interesting that while not a horse collar by the letter of the law, it still led to injury in the same manner. I wonder if they'll be refining that rule in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 We did get away with the same thing with Bradham later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 We did get away with the same thing with Bradham later. Bradham's jersey grab was clearly away from the collar area and he wasn't fined for it. And Mariota wasn't bent backwards like TT was, much less injured on the play. So at best you can say that the Titans didn't get an undeserved call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 It was clearly never a horse collar tackle--almost everyone saw this. No need to change the rule. Pulling a guy down by the back of the jersey can't be legislated out of the game because one player injured his leg. The rule wan't meant to mitigate that type of injury. They also aren't likely to change the rule to help those who didn't understand the rule to save face.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) theyre right, it wasnt horse collar, grabbed jersey He grabbed the inside of the jersey or very close too but regardless when TT was already down with legs buckled the guy kept ripping him further down. Thats dirty ball and when I played I would of never did that to anyone. Edited October 17, 2015 by billsfan_34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 It was clearly never a horse collar tackle--almost everyone saw this. No need to change the rule. Pulling a guy down by the back of the jersey can't be legislated out of the game because one player injured his leg. The rule wan't meant to mitigate that type of injury. They also aren't likely to change the rule to help those who didn't understand the rule to save face.... Swing your partner do se do......Round and Round and Round we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 It was clearly never a horse collar tackle--almost everyone saw this. No need to change the rule. Pulling a guy down by the back of the jersey can't be legislated out of the game because one player injured his leg. The rule wan't meant to mitigate that type of injury. They also aren't likely to change the rule to help those who didn't understand the rule to save face.... Well that was the goal of the rule. Guys were getting knees blown out left and right. The tweak would simply change it from "inside the collar" to "above the nameplate" or something similar I wouldn't expect that to happen though, unless we saw a few guys end up like tyrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Well that was the goal of the rule. Guys were getting knees blown out left and right. The tweak would simply change it from "inside the collar" to "above the nameplate" or something similar I wouldn't expect that to happen though, unless we saw a few guys end up like tyrod I don't see any rule change coming. Too hard for them to interpret where the jersey was grabbed---they blew this call as the rule currently is written, imagine how bad it will be if they chnage the rule. The rule currently makes no sense as a protector of runners or QBs as defenders are free to yank them down by the collar if they are in the tackle box/pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 @ProFootballTalk: Zach Brown not fined for tackle that injured Tyrod Taylor http://t.co/8JekRsERMV Apparently indicating that it was an incorrect call and not horse collar It was a correct call, and NOT a horse Collar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 It was not a horse collar but it was the exact type of tackle that makes horse collars illegal. He grabbed Taylor just below the collar and pulled him backwards. It's a dangerous play. Shouldn't be able to grab a player up around the collar either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I don't see any rule change coming. Too hard for them to interpret where the jersey was grabbed---they blew this call as the rule currently is written, imagine how bad it will be if they chnage the rule. The rule currently makes no sense as a protector of runners or QBs as defenders are free to yank them down by the collar if they are in the tackle box/pocket. I think part is that a guy running in the open field is much more exposed to the type of knee injury, but I won't claim to be a horse collar expert. I do agree that it won't change over 1 injury. The same fans that will call for the rule book already being too big and too hard to enforce often see to be the same ones that struggle with the idea that you aren't going to have a perfect system that has every possible situation covered. The rule in place is pretty good at protecting the players and pretty easily defined. Unless we see a spike in incidents, I'm ok with accepting that the status quo is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I don't see any rule change coming. Too hard for them to interpret where the jersey was grabbed---they blew this call as the rule currently is written, imagine how bad it will be if they chnage the rule. The rule currently makes no sense as a protector of runners or QBs as defenders are free to yank them down by the collar if they are in the tackle box/pocket. It was close enough. He grabbed him by the name and pulled him backwards. In full speed it looks like a horse collar and actually was just as dangerous. Bradham grabbed Mariota in the middle of the number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 It was close enough. He grabbed him by the name and pulled him backwards. In full speed it looks like a horse collar and actually was just as dangerous. Bradham grabbed Mariota in the middle of the number. ...and pulled him backwards. Maybe all backwards pulls of any kind should be outlawed. If MAriota was the one who was injured instead of TT, no one here would be posting on it, let alone calling for a rule change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 @ProFootballTalk: Zach Brown not fined for tackle that injured Tyrod Taylor http://t.co/8JekRsERMV Apparently indicating that it was an incorrect call and not horse collar But neither was Bradham , he wasn't even given a penalty for his tackle on Mariotta which was exactly the same tackle that happened to Taylor the Bills just got lucky on one only Tyrod got hurt & Mariotta didn't ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 ...and pulled him backwards. Maybe all backwards pulls of any kind should be outlawed. If MAriota was the one who was injured instead of TT, no one here would be posting on it, let alone calling for a rule change. And if what had happened to TT had happened to Brady, you wouldn't be going all out to discredit the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 ...and pulled him backwards. Maybe all backwards pulls of any kind should be outlawed. If MAriota was the one who was injured instead of TT, no one here would be posting on it, let alone calling for a rule change. Yeah. Grabbing the jersey to make a tackle should be illegal. It's an easy call to make also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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