birdog1960 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) totally outplayed all season. as a percentage of plays they must be the most penalized. it cost us momentum and points on both offense and defense. if he has any pride he falls on his sword tomorrow. plenty of blame to go around but this is a consistent area of suckitude. Edited October 4, 2015 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 He was good last season not sure what's going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 is the real Grossman back . . . these Special Teams have been awful all season, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 He was good last season not sure what's going onHe wasn't good, the Bills dressed 7 guys last year to do nothing but ST. That was the most in the league. Marrone did that to protect his buddy Crossman. Crossman has been bad for his entire career. He is (and was) terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) He wasn't good, the Bills dressed 7 guys last year to do nothing but ST. That was the most in the league. Marrone did that to protect his buddy Crossman. Crossman has been bad for his entire career. He is (and was) terrible. Â Kirby is correct here. St. Doug effectively did everything in his power personnel wise to protect the special teams side of the ball last year. Â Crossmans body of work is very poor. Edited October 4, 2015 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Â Kirby is correct here. St. Doug effectively did everything in his power personnel wise to protect the speical teams side of the ball last year. Â Crossmans body of work is very poor. Â So very bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Some players screwed up so the solution is fire the coach. Great. Coverage sucked on the short KO (good play got us a stop inside the 5 a couple weeks back). Fire the coach. Â For those harping on Thigpen catching those punts inside the 10...he was right in catching each one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Some players screwed up so the solution is fire the coach. Great. Coverage sucked on the short KO (good play got us a stop inside the 5 a couple weeks back). Fire the coach. Â For those harping on Thigpen catching those punts inside the 10...he was right in catching each one. b.s. ST had 6 penalties in the pats* loss and at least 4 in today's, possibly 5. it was so bad and i was fast forwarding so much, i'm not sure. yes, the players make the plays. but you build special teams with fringe guys. didn't they cut some guys to keep the right ST guys? if that's true (and i believe it is) then it's on the coach. and if he's got the wrong players, make some changes. Edited October 5, 2015 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The guy covering the center is egregious to the max. How could they line up in a clearly illegal front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 b.s. ST had 6 penalties in the pats* loss and at least 4 in today's, possibly 5. it was so bad and i was fast forwarding so much, i'm not sure. yes, the players make the plays. but you build special teams with fringe guys. didn't they cut some guys to keep the right ST guys? if that's true (and i believe it is) then it's on the coach. and if he's got the wrong players, make some changes. OK, ST had penalties, fire the coach. Feel the same about the defense? The offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) OK, ST had penalties, fire the coach. Feel the same about the defense? The offense? there were six scores today. not sure how many punts. maybe 12? so about 20 plays and 4 or 5 penalties in those plays. the average game has what, 120 total offense and defensive plays.? (perhaps they can task the analytics department with researching this) and the bills were penalized 12 or 13 times. a penalty every ten plays sucks. a penalty every 4 or 5 plays? beyond ridiculous. yeah, i say he should be fired. and as i said at the outset, if i were this bad at my job, i'd quit before i embarrassed myself further. Edited October 5, 2015 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 He was good last season not sure what's going on  And completely sucked the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 there were six scores today. not sure how many punts. maybe 12? so about 20 plays and 4 or 5 penalties in those plays. the average game has what, 120 total offense and defensive plays.? (perhaps they can task the analytics department with researching this) and the bills were penalized 12 or 13 times. a penalty every ten plays sucks. a penalty every 4 or 5 plays? beyond ridiculous. yeah, i say he should be fired. and as i said at the outset, if i were this bad at my job, i'd quit before i embarrassed myself further. What is it league-wide? There are penalties on ST. Fire the coach. Yup, good plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Our punt return team is just abysmal. Every single punt, there are 3 different colored jerseys just running free waiting to tag Thigpen is he even dares a return. Can anyone on that team throw a block, or even slow someone down?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Â And completely sucked the year before. Sounds like the guy who in another thread everyone is saying you can't cut (who also is only on the roster for a portion of Special teams) Our punt return team is just abysmal. Every single punt, there are 3 different colored jerseys just running free waiting to tag Thigpen is he even dares a return. Can anyone on that team throw a block, or even slow someone down?? They probably could but thats the only way they won't get flagged for an illegal block, holding, or some other penalty negating the punt and giving the offence the ball back............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 They probably could but thats the only way they won't get flagged for an illegal block, holding, or some other penalty negating the punt and giving the offence the ball back............ I think every punt should be a fair catch. The idea that a return will be successful without a penalty is a dream these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Sounds like the guy who in another thread everyone is saying you can't cut (who also is only on the roster for a portion of Special teams) They probably could but thats the only way they won't get flagged for an illegal block, holding, or some other penalty negating the punt and giving the offence the ball back............ Â I think every punt should be a fair catch. The idea that a return will be successful without a penalty is a dream these days. Â Oh yeah. That's probably a good call. Momentum turning great play, on Buffalo, 15 yard penalty, automatic kick in the balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 totally outplayed all season. as a percentage of plays they must be the most penalized. it cost us momentum and points on both offense and defense. if he has any pride he falls on his sword tomorrow. plenty of blame to go around but this is a consistent area of suckitude. Â we just need 6 more "core" players. Just 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 totally outplayed all season. as a percentage of plays they must be the most penalized. it cost us momentum and points on both offense and defense. if he has any pride he falls on his sword tomorrow. plenty of blame to go around but this is a consistent area of suckitude. This bum should have been fired before last season and Marone covered for him, special teams are hurting this team and killing us for field position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 What is it league-wide? There are penalties on ST. Fire the coach. Yup, good plan. which would be a reasonable argument if there were any other NFL team close in penalties: http://www.nflpenalties.com. since the ST penalties have been disproportionally high it follows that we're near or at the worst there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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