The Frankish Reich Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Good for him. He's just good enough to start in this league and just bad enough to not have a team invest long term in him... Yeah, right. No team would ever give a guy like that a, say, 6 year, $59 million contract with a $10 million signing bonus! EDIT: the real question, and it's a serious one -- would the Bills have been better off just letting that Fitz contract play out instead of eating a good part of it, then drafting EJ, then bringing in Orton, Cassel, Tyrod ... Edited September 23, 2015 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 @SethWalderNYDN: Bowles said Ryan Fitzpatrick is the QB right now, regardless of Geno is healthy or not. well between Fitz and Geno , it makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Welp, Fitz is now my guy too! With Romo on the shelf I had to go dumpster diving for a new fantasy QB and it's gonna be Fitzgibbons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 Welp, Fitz is now my guy too! With Romo on the shelf I had to go dumpster diving for a new fantasy QB and it's gonna be Fitzgibbons! i noticed how the majority of his throws have gone to Marshall and decker and now decker might be out (day to day with sprained knee). They don't have a great TE. Who is next man up as wr2? Kerley? I know they have Devin Smith but he hasn't played yet and I don't see him as a polished route runner (yet) - more of a deep threat. And I don't know how much advantage Fitz can take of a deep threat. Smith is a better fit with Geno. Basically I'm wondering if I should pick up Kerley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 i noticed how the majority of his throws have gone to Marshall and decker and now decker might be out (day to day with sprained knee). They don't have a great TE. Who is next man up as wr2? Kerley? I know they have Devin Smith but he hasn't played yet and I don't see him as a polished route runner (yet) - more of a deep threat. And I don't know how much advantage Fitz can take of a deep threat. Smith is a better fit with Geno. Basically I'm wondering if I should pick up Kerley. Only if your WR situation is as desperate as my QB situation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsox Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 @SethWalderNYDN: Bowles said Ryan Fitzpatrick is the QB right now, regardless of Geno is healthy or not. Cool story bro! Let me know how that working for you in December! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 he did not win 9 games, he won 5... and how was it a worse team? 6. He won 6. The Houston D was awesome last year and Arian Foster is a damn offense all by himself. Time after time I think that guy is stuffed, and he gains 5 yards. Agree "not proven" they're a worse team than Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland Rocks? Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 He was pretty much what I expected against the Browns. Browns couldn't stop the run but if Fitzpatrick had to throw more I didn't see much there. Had a nice TD pass on Haden though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 OMG Please stop. He is what he is. By this point in his career with the amount of opportunities he has been given we know what he is. I am glad the Jets are starting him. He will be decent and he will be good but he will for sure be god awful and and throw horrible picks are crucial periods in the game. The interesting thing is last year, "Pickspatrick" was well under control with a TD/INT ratio of 2.1 (17 TD, 8 INTs, 2.6% INTs). But when you look under the hood, it's not an even balanced performance season-wide. He had early games where he threw a stupid number of INTs (v. Giants: 3. v. us, 2) IMO O'Brien got on his case for bad decision making, with the result that he started thinking too much and his completion percentage plummeted, leading to benching. He came off the bench and threw a stupid # of TDS (6 v. TEN) and finished the year strong, high completion percentage and no INTs. Every QB has hot and cold games, but evidently benching inspires Fitz? Be that as it may, I don't think he changed into a different QB with O'Brien, I think the run-first, limit-mistakes system suited his skills and we will see his INT percentage soar again under Gailey. I think he's a cool guy and I'd like to be wrong, but there is that "is what he is" history. Maybe he'll overcome it...but I won't bet the rent. Yeah, right. No team would ever give a guy like that a, say, 6 year, $59 million contract with a $10 million signing bonus! EDIT: the real question, and it's a serious one -- would the Bills have been better off just letting that Fitz contract play out instead of eating a good part of it, then drafting EJ, then bringing in Orton, Cassel, Tyrod ... Some pundit called it. Something like "Fitzpatrick is remarkable for being dumped at QB by team after team which then fail to replace him with someone better." Fitz is tough as nails and smart, and yes, I think you could make a good argument that the Bills could have reno'd his contract on somewhat better terms than they offered, kept him, and been better off with EJ behind him for 2 years than bringing in Kolb (don't forget Kolb), Lewis (don't forget Lewis), TJax, Orton, Cassel etc.- with all the signing bonuses, bath mats, concussions etc we quite arguably spent more money for less play (assuming he would have reno'd to something similar to what we paid Kolb). Taylor, I think the jury is out. He intrigues me, but anyone expecting him to be SuperQB right out of the box is in for a rough ride, and game-planning to use him effectively is going to be key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Only if your WR situation is as desperate as my QB situation! It is. Mike Evans is my #1 WR and he has done NOTHING. Didn't play the 1st week and week 2 had 0 points and 0 catches. I have Golden Tate and Davante Adams. Meh so far, Stevie Johnson has been my most consistent believe it or not. Edited September 23, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yeah, right. No team would ever give a guy like that a, say, 6 year, $59 million contract with a $10 million signing bonus! EDIT: the real question, and it's a serious one -- would the Bills have been better off just letting that Fitz contract play out instead of eating a good part of it, then drafting EJ, then bringing in Orton, Cassel, Tyrod ... Without all that we wouldn't have Rex, we wouldn't have Tyrod. Also the Bills would have been 6-10 or worse every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 Without all that we wouldn't have Rex, we wouldn't have Tyrod. Also the Bills would have been 6-10 or worse every year. I can't believe people are forgetting how brutal Fitz was here at the end. Blame it on everything but him, sure, but hindsight is 20/20 after seeing his replacements and I sure as heck didn't want keep him at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bobobonators Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) I think he could maybe get you there... but this start reminds me of the Bills 2011 start where he was winning us games when we were getting 4 plus turnovers per game. the 2011 Bills had a defense that was atrociously bad, ranking 30th in pts/game (over 27/game). The Jets might very well end up in the top 10 this season, defensively. It'll be interesting to see how he does. I can't believe people are forgetting how brutal Fitz was here at the end. Blame it on everything but him, sure, but hindsight is 20/20 after seeing his replacements and I sure as heck didn't want keep him at QB. Primary difference I see between Fitz's time here and after him leaving is that we now have a defense. What would our W/L record have been last season if we had to score 27-30 pts/game on offense? Edited September 23, 2015 by bobobonators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Hmm... Gailey, who was his HC and OC at the time he got his big contract with us and is now his OC in NY and have announced he is their starter right now.... Not surprised at all CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yeah, right. No team would ever give a guy like that a, say, 6 year, $59 million contract with a $10 million signing bonus! EDIT: the real question, and it's a serious one -- would the Bills have been better off just letting that Fitz contract play out instead of eating a good part of it, then drafting EJ, then bringing in Orton, Cassel, Tyrod ... Tyrod is about the same size as fitz and has a WAY better arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 2010 Bills ranked 28th in pts/game against (26.6) 2011 Bills ranked 30th in pts/game against (27.1) 2012 Bills ranked 26th in pts/game against (27.2) 2014 Bills: 18.1 pts/game against 2013 Bills: 24.2 pts/game against It's not a coincidence we had our first winning season in forever last season when a QB not named Brady/Rodgers/Manning doesn't have to put up close to 30pts a game just to get a win. Fitz is what he is IMO: sometimes good; sometimes bad; overall - average. If the Jets are able to run the ball effectively and the defense plays at a top 10 level there is a very real chance they could finish 9-7/10-6 with Fitz at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 It's deja vu all over again: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/myers-jets-hole-quarterback-article-1.2376457 http://nypost.com/2015/09/27/todd-bowles-downplays-qb-drama-after-fitzpatricks-disaster/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Front Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Too funny. With Chan and Fitz, they'll make it to 9-7 if they are lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I almost feel bad for Fitz and the Jes... nah. No I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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