Beef Jerky Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 good for fitz....bad for us....wanted to face geno Good for us actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 hes easily the best of the bad qbs - problem is that wont get you anywhere long term. Â but if you find yourself with him and another bad qb, he will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 doubt that. Houston was a similar team in an easier division and he couldn't do it - benched mid season They still won 9 games, and they have a worse team than ours. Â Fitzmagic is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I love how this guy just keeps plugging away and always ends up playing a bunch of games no matter where he goes. Consummate badazz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) They still won 9 games, and they have a worse team than ours. Â Fitzmagic is real. he did not win 9 games, he won 5... and how was it a worse team? Edited September 22, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 They still won 9 games, and they have a worse team than ours. Â Fitzmagic is real. OMG Please stop. He is what he is. By this point in his career with the amount of opportunities he has been given we know what he is. I am glad the Jets are starting him. He will be decent and he will be good but he will for sure be god awful and and throw horrible picks are crucial periods in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalothruMyVeins Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Once I cut through the fact that I'm not a Jets fan, and wish failure to those that stand between our team and winning, but I really like Fitz, as a guy, and really respect Chan, having to coach this team when we were fielding players like Reggie Torbor, Ko Simpson, and Geoff Hangartner... The cupboard was BARE, and he formulated a legitimately functional offense. Donald Jones, Stevie Johnson, and David Nelson were our top 3 WRs, and we had an elite screen offense getting elite-level numbers from our running backs, with help from Fitz. I miss how decent of people that team felt like, really easy to root for vs. some of the guys on our team now, but we are infinitely more talented, and wish Chan had a fair chance to coach this much talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 he did not win 9 games, he won 5... and how was it a worse team? We had a better defense, better receivers, better ST? They had JJ Watt and Arian Foster, two good players surrounded by poor ones. OMG Please stop. He is what he is. By this point in his career with the amount of opportunities he has been given we know what he is. I am glad the Jets are starting him. He will be decent and he will be good but he will for sure be god awful and and throw horrible picks are crucial periods in the game. Yeah, he totally threw a crucial pick on that 80 yard TD drive to end the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Really. Like what other choice do they have and the team is 2-0. Bold statment by Jets. He will stink it up soon. Buy your Fitz jersey now because it goes down hill from here. Fitz will never be the reason they win a game. He is a manager of clock and ball distribution, not going to light a defense for 300 yards. Think Trent Dilfer. Manage the game play great defense maybe late in the 4th you get a shot at a game winning field goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 The jets are way better across the board that the bills ever were with Fitz. We were Wannyized in D Fitz last year - the 600 - 600 back to back weeks are unforgettable. I think Fitz has lost a step but he has incrementally become more careful with the ball since he was a bill. I don't blame him for letting his # 1 make a play in traffic last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) We had a better defense, better receivers, better ST? They had JJ Watt and Arian Foster, two good players surrounded by poor ones. Â . you really think they had two good players? Duane Brown, Deandre Hopkins, Andre Johnson, Johnathan Joseph, Kendrick Lewis, DJ Swearinger, Brian Cushing.. None of these are "poor" players...anyway they beat us head to head and had the same record overall despite playing 3 different QBs. They must have been pretty good. Edited September 22, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Look, I love me some Fitz and I'm happy he's won the job. But it does mean Geno really is written off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 you really think they had two good players? Duane Brown, Deandre Hopkins, Andre Johnson, Johnathan Joseph, Kendrick Lewis, DJ Swearinger, Brian Cushing.. None of these are "poor" players...anyway they beat us head to head and had the same record overall despite playing 3 different QBs. They must have been pretty good. The Oakland Raiders also beat us head to head, that doesn't make them better than us. They had a defense ranked 16th compared to our 4th. Hopkins is good but he's not better than Sammy, and Woods is better than Andre. Â They weren't pretty good. They just weren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 They still won 9 games, and they have a worse team than ours. Â Fitzmagic is real. And Fitz only played in 6 of those Wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 The Oakland Raiders also beat us head to head, that doesn't make them better than us. They had a defense ranked 16th compared to our 4th. Hopkins is good but he's not better than Sammy, and Woods is better than Andre. Â They weren't pretty good. They just weren't. i didn't say they were better. I said they were "similar teams." But apparently everything must be argued! And your opinion that they just went pretty good, they just weren't... That's all that must be the case, since you think so. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) i didn't say they were better. I said they were "similar teams." But apparently everything must be argued! And your opinion that they just went pretty good, they just weren't... That's all that must be the case, since you think so. Lol. Are the Raiders and the Bills similar teams because they beat us head to head? Or the Pats and Bills? I just don't follow the logic. Â You asked my why I thought the had poor players and why they were a worse team. I showed you a stat that had them smack down at the middle of the pack in terms of defense while having a player who got MVP votes on the defensive side of the ball. And probably should've won. Watt was herculean but the rest of the team was bad. I also demonstrated I thought many of our players were superior and I still do. Both of those contribute to my opinion that our team was better. Cheers. Â Edited September 22, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Are the Raiders and the Bills similar teams because they beat us head to head? Or the Pats and Bills? I just don't follow the logic. Â You asked my why I thought the had poor players and why they were a worse team. I showed you a stat that had them smack down at the middle of the pack in terms of defense while having a player who got MVP votes on the defensive side of the ball. And probably should've won. Watt was herculean but the rest of the team was bad. I also demonstrated I thought many of our players were superior and I still do. Both of those contribute to my opinion that our team was better. Cheers. Â yes, I think they were similar teams. I don't think they have poor players on either side of the ball, sorry - despite your stat about their defense being middle of the pack (?) but if you think Marrone and Fitz would have led us to the playoffs last year... be my guest. Edited September 22, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 @SethWalderNYDN: Bowles said Ryan Fitzpatrick is the QB right now, regardless of Geno is healthy or not. Ahhhh yes I remember what happened after the bills "figured out" fitz was really a franchise QB who just never got a fair shot. I can't believe the 2011 bills and 2014 jets traded identities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 you really think they had two good players? Duane Brown, Deandre Hopkins, Andre Johnson, Johnathan Joseph, Kendrick Lewis, DJ Swearinger, Brian Cushing.. None of these are "poor" players...anyway they beat us head to head and had the same record overall despite playing 3 different QBs. They must have been pretty good. I wouldn't trade rosters, but I would've traded qbs- so I guess I agree with FC here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 I wouldn't trade rosters, but I would've traded qbs- so I guess I agree with FC herei wouldn't trade rosters either - just said they were "similar teams" in having talent to make the playoffs except at the QB position. As far as the QBs on both teams - none of them were playoff caliber IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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