4merper4mer Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Does the NHL base it's penalty more on intent or the effect of the hit? If it's intent, the suspension will be worse IMO. IMO if there was intent you should get the worst of all possible punishments.....if you intend to injure and fail, get punished as if you had succeeded.....if you intend to injure and the injury ends up even more serious than the intent..... punished based on the injury....for instance if you hit a guy in the head and break his jaw and he is out a month.....you wait until he gets back plus 5 more games after that. Without demonstrated intent suspensions, if any, should be short. Agree, but it's hard to prove intent. It can be, but it isn't always. Neil's intent was dirty at best, injurious at worst. It was clearly intentional. Unless a guy can explain why it was unintentional.....good luck with that POS Neil.....throw the book at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) IMO if there was intent you should get the worst of all possible punishments.....if you intend to injure and fail, get punished as if you had succeeded.....if you intend to injure and the injury ends up even more serious than the intent..... punished based on the injury....for instance if you hit a guy in the head and break his jaw and he is out a month.....you wait until he gets back plus 5 more games after that. Without demonstrated intent suspensions, if any, should be short. It can be, but it isn't always. Neil's intent was dirty at best, injurious at worst. It was clearly intentional. Unless a guy can explain why it was unintentional.....good luck with that POS Neil.....throw the book at him. That would be ideal for determining punishments. After watching the knee again, it was still a dirty bs move, but it wasn't as bad as I thought last night. I don't think the intent was to injure, just rough up. Still not ok though. Even worse because it was Eichel. Edited March 19, 2016 by LBSeeBallLBGetBall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 IMO if there was intent you should get the worst of all possible punishments.....if you intend to injure and fail, get punished as if you had succeeded.....if you intend to injure and the injury ends up even more serious than the intent..... punished based on the injury....for instance if you hit a guy in the head and break his jaw and he is out a month.....you wait until he gets back plus 5 more games after that. Without demonstrated intent suspensions, if any, should be short. It can be, but it isn't always. Neil's intent was dirty at best, injurious at worst. It was clearly intentional. Unless a guy can explain why it was unintentional.....good luck with that POS Neil.....throw the book at him. Absolutely, but was his intent to injure him, or get a response from someone else by going after the other team's superstar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Absolutely, but was his intent to injure him, or get a response from someone else by going after the other team's superstar? I think it was a misguided retaliation for Kane trying to rough up Karlsson earlier in the game (there's history there) and his frustration at how the game was going. That crap needs to stop in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Eichel out with the flu tonight? 26, where are you to confirm? GO SABRES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Aw man @brianWGR No Eichel for #Sabres tonight. He has the flu. Catenacci called up from #Amerks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Crap, not good news for Toronto fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 Eichel out with the flu tonight? 26, where are you to confirm? GO SABRES!!! Neil's ugliness made him ill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Interesting story on the firing of Sabres Director of Player Performance. He was just hired this year. http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2016/03/19/despite-surprise-firing-at-the-top-sabres-committed-to-new-performance-department/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Can you guess how many times he has been suspended by the NHL? Zero. I am not saying he is bad @ agitating... He's the best @ it! Neil is the epitome of what you get when The League stopped letting the players enforce a code of conduct on the ice. I think it was a misguided retaliation for Kane trying to rough up Karlsson earlier in the game (there's history there) and his frustration at how the game was going. That crap needs to stop in the NHL. No... It actually needs to be brought back into the game. The only way it ends is to go old school and let it burn itself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Aw man @brianWGR No Eichel for #Sabres tonight. He has the flu. Catenacci called up from #Amerks. Announcer just said food poisoning? Zero. I am not saying he is bad @ agitating... He's the best @ it! Neil is the epitome of what you get when The League stopped letting the players enforce a code of conduct on the ice. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) Announcer just said food poisoning? Yep. The League is doing a poor job ridding the game of these agitators. The power needs to be given back to the players to restore order. Edited March 19, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 The League is doing a poor job ridding the game of these agitators. The power needs to be given back to the players to restore order. Remember when you used to be able to lay a good clean body check and not have to fight someone right after it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) Remember when you used to be able to lay a good clean body check and not have to fight someone right after it? Like this "can of Umberger soup" https://m.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/3i095r/one_of_my_favorite_hits_ever_brian_campbell/ Notice what happens right after... Edited March 20, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 @mirtle HNIC announces NHL draft lottery will be on April 30th. All Canadian NHL teams interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 How pissed are leafs fans right now .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 How pissed are leafs fans right now .... Yep, time for the leafs to send these kids back to the AHL before they !@#$ up the lottery pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 How pissed are leafs fans right now .... Apparently Sabres fans are pissed as well. Crickets around here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 The League is doing a poor job ridding the game of these agitators. The power needs to be given back to the players to restore order. There's a better solution to reckless conduct on the ice: Enforce the rules. If the referees enforce the rules and the league does the same when it reviews games the sport would be cleaned up. There is no fighting in college and in the Olympics. Hard hitting and intensity are still associated with their different environments while the game is more free flowing. The goon mentality is outdated. In other sports such as basketball when there was too much physical play that deterred the expression of talent the rules were more strictly enforced and even changed so the game wouldn't turn into a wrestling match. Football is certainly one of the most physical sports in the world. Fighting is not allowed. In soccer there are collisions, deliberate and inadvertent. Fighting is not allowed. The NHL has done a reasonable job of enforcing the rules(exception is interference rule) compared to the thuggery that used to go on a number of years ago. Without a doubt more has to be done. The fighting should be banned as it is with other sports. If you seriously penalize the players who frequently cross the line and make it a more costly handicap for the teams that they play for the game will become more free flowing and talent will be more prominently showcased. Fighting is archaic and stupid. It needs to be expunged from the game. Those advocating for it as a mechanism for administering justice need to realize that the dinosaur era is long gone. Being backwards is not a way to advance the game; it is a way to hinder the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 @BuffNewsVogl Sabres will begin talks with Hudson Fasching as soon as today, and he could be wearing a Buffalo uniform this week. Sabres, Fasching to begin contract talks as soon as Sunday The Sabres will begin talks with Hudson Fasching as soon as Sunday, and one of the team's top prospects could be wearing a Buffalo uniform this week.Fasching, a right winger ranked as the organization’s No. 2 prospect by the Hockey News, completed his junior season with the University of Minnesota on Saturday night. He is open to leaving college after tying for first on the team with 20 goals and finishing second with 38 points in 37 games.The 6-foot-2, 207-pounder seems like an ideal fit for a team in need of a winger with a scoring touch. Sam Reinhart (20 goals) and Evander Kane (19) are the only wingers with more than 10 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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