BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 2013 EJ 2014 EJ 2015 Not EJ, I think they are learning over there at 1 Bills Dr. Finally they are learning to develop young players!!! Hallelujah!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000517670/Cassel-scrambles-up-the-middle He had an 8 yard gain. That was as long as EJ's longest run in 4+ games last year. Way to prove my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Matt Cassel is the Bills backup QB. He's a perfectly good backup QB. In fact, I would even go so far as to say that he is a prototypical backup QB. Are the Packers counting on Scott Tolzien to take them to the promised land this season? But you just said in numerous posts that you thought he sucks. Please stick with one story line. This flip flopping is not helping your cause. Edited September 8, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 If you look at him on you tube, EJ was a very good runner in college. In regular season games he looked (imo) clumsy and lumbering, and it's hard to understand why. I agree. I don't think that he lacks the speed or quickness to be a decent runner - but he has no feel for it. He always looks awkward and unsure of himself. I don't think he's got the brain feel for running in space. Although, as you say, he looked somewhat better at Florida State (still not great in my opinion), so who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 After taking a 75% pay cut, it's more like a one year membership in the jelly-of-the-month club. But to his credit, I didn't think he'd accept it. BTW, anyone seen the Pegulas lately? At the US Open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 At the US Open? Phew! I was envisioning them being kidnapped into Cassel's RV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 EJ seems better with his demotion than TBD I think KTD nailed it with his take. EJ will likely be the guy to take over #1 if TT gets hurt or plays badly a few games in a row. Cassel will be backup for emergency in game play. Hopefully it's not just talk that all 3 help each other to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 He had an 8 yard gain. That was as long as EJ's longest run in 4+ games last year. Way to prove my point. It was 3rd and 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/videos/Matt-Cassel-Highlights/e39e6dc1-775c-41d6-9629-9dee28b8acab Look at 1:27 of this video. Actually watch the whole video and tell me when EJ has ever made those throws? Or run like that. Bombs to wide open players against third stringers is great. But how's about in regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Nope, never said that. ummm in a way you did. Clarification - the way you presented it you did. And yeah keep perpetuating this myth that I hate EJ and love Cassel. I have said that I thought EJ did enough to earn the #2 job but I would've kept Cassel as a #3, ideally at a reduced salary. In fact, thinking EJ had earned the #2 spot is the first thing I've been wrong about in quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Not really true. He wasn't unless he was dirt cheap. And they were very willing for him to be not on the team. I would gauge they figured it was a less than 50-50 chance. They may even have had to promise him to be #2 before he agreed. There's a reason I referred to the coaches in my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It was 3rd and 10. And did EJ get a first down on every drive? Actually EJ had the worst down and out of all three QB's during preseason. Again those pesky stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 And did EJ get a first down on every drive? Actually EJ had the worst down and out of all three QB's during preseason. Again those pesky stats. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 And did EJ get a first down on every drive? Actually EJ had the worst down and out of all three QB's during preseason. Again those pesky stats. I'm loving all of your posts right now. Keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/videos/Matt-Cassel-Highlights/e39e6dc1-775c-41d6-9629-9dee28b8acab Look at 1:27 of this video. Actually watch the whole video and tell me when EJ has ever made those throws? Or run like that. Bombs to wide open players against third stringers is great. But how's about in regular season. Amazing he went 9-17 the past 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) But you just said in numerous posts that you thought he sucks. Please stick with one story line. This flip flopping is not helping your cause. I've never flip flopped once, nor do I have a cause. I have maintained the following things all along: 1.Going into this offseason, I thought it was less than likely that EJ developed into a franchise QB. 2. I think yes, throughout all of last offseason (which everyone forgot about last year but loves to talk about his preseason this year) and his last two games, he COMPLETELY sucked. That does not mean I necessarily wrote him off, I just disagreed with the idea presented by many, most notably OC in Buffalo, that I wasn't allowed to have an opinion on him yet. 3. I initially dismissed the coaching excuse but after seeing his improvement this preseason, I am inclined to think I may have been wrong about that. I think the previous regime may have hindered his development and I think the current one may help it. 4. He had two fair to good but much overhyped preseason games, followed by an amazing preseason game. 5. This move does not shock me. All of the "lamestream" media types who told us for weeks that EJ was a distant third in camp had no reason to lie to us. There was no anti-EJ agenda. There was an open competition between three guys. All of the EJ guys said, "hey if he can't beat out 'Meh' Cassel then the writing is on the wall." He finished third. That's it. 6. I still find it less than likely that EJ Manuel develops into a franchise QB in this league. How about you? Edited September 8, 2015 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Amazing he went 9-17 the past 4 years. With the starting RB suspended. With pretty much a bad team around him. But the QB is the only one responsible? I am not saying Cassel is a great or even good QB. I am saying he is better than EJ. I for one am so glad that TT is our starter, Edited September 8, 2015 by VABills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) With the starting RB suspended. With pretty much a bad team around him. But the QB is the only one responsible? I am not saying Cassel is a great or even good QB. I am saying he is better than EJ. I for one am so glad that TT is our starter, People who cite QB's W-L records as a be-all-end-all in a debate about how good a QB is are not worth debating with. Edited September 8, 2015 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 This shows that the Bill have allot of confidence in TT & EJ. Sarcasm? Hey, didn't Matt Cassel already give our playbook to the Patriots the night he was first released from the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Sarcasm? Hey, didn't Matt Cassel already give our playbook to the Patriots the night he was first released from the Bills? Yes. This way TT gets hurt, since he is a china doll running QB. Then Cassel can be the savior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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