Kirby Jackson Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 There is so much talk on the topic that I thought that a poll may be appropriate. What are the odds in your opinion that EJ Manuel can be a "franchise" type QB this year? As a baseline I would say, Alex Smith / Ryan Tannehill represent the low end. Basically what are the odds that he can achieve that level of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 As an eternal optimist, I say 1%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 1%-25% if the question was specific to him being that on the Bills this year I would go no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 1%-25% if the question was specific to him being that on the Bills this year I would go no chance. It was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 17, 2015 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 1%-25% if the question was specific to him being that on the Bills this year I would go no chance.I didn't know how else to word it. I think that I am in the 1-25% in total. I don't think that he is in the roster in 2016 though if he doesn't show that he can be the guy. That's why I applied it to this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I'm confident that he will prove the naysayers wrong!! I don't think Whaley and Co. are that dumb to just release him at this point. They have to see from tape that he is gradually improving. He will be on team in 2016 and starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (33% chance he wins the starting job + 20% chance he puts up franchise-type numbers) / 2 = 26.5% chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 A lot of votes at 1 percent. So you are telling me there is a chance!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) It was.No it wasn't. It was specific to this year but not specific to being on the Bills. He has zero chance on the Bills because he is currently third of 3 and the coaches have in reality counted him out of the competition. If he goes somewhere else where he starts as the 2nd guy on the depth chart and there is an early injury... well who knows... in that circumstance with a bit of wild optimism I'd go 1%. Edited August 17, 2015 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) But this is assuming that he already isn't a franchise QB. Edited August 17, 2015 by QB Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 On the low end of 1-25%. Not only does he have to be good enough, it looks like he'll need an injury or two to get the chance to show it. Those odds start piling up to make it pretty unlikely, though I'd love to be wrong. I was generally surprised by the overall quality of the QB play, so yes, I'm the fool who can be (almost) taken in by a single preseason game. Reality will slap me in the face soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 No it wasn't. It was specific to this year but not specific to being on the Bills. He has zero chance on the Bills because he is currently third of 3 and the coaches have in reality counted him out of the competition. If he goes somewhere else where he starts as the 2nd guy on the depth chart and there is an early injury... well who knows... in that circumstance with a bit of wild optimism I'd go 1%. Ah, misunderstood. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (33% chance he wins the starting job + 20% chance he puts up franchise-type numbers) / 2 = 26.5% chance I didn't realize I had to show my work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Confidence in What?? He's never been great and doesn't have clue what's it's like to great. Confidence that he's doing the very best he can? Sure. Long time Starter worthy? Hell no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 The chance for 90% of almost any non franchise QB to become a franchise QB this season is about 5% IMO. There just aren't many franchise QBs and it's extremely hard and several things have to happen right for you even if you're very good. A number one overall like Jameis is a little higher, which is what I meant by the 90% figure, but it's not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 0% and that applies to all of the QBs currently on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Ok who voted "definitely"? Was it Bills Fan 4 Ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 17, 2015 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 0% and that applies to all of the QBs currently on the roster.I think that it is higher than that. Cassel has already played at the baseline level (not that I think he will again). I won't say that he can't do it because he already has. Taylor can be absolutely anything (good or bad). We just haven't seen enough of him. EJ has the physical tools to do it if he puts it all together. Again, the odds are long (longer for some based on the opportunity) but I wouldn't say that it is zero. I'd probably have all 3 in the 1-25% but I'd be tempted to move Taylor into the 26-50%. I guess that I give him a 1 out of 3 chance of becoming Alex Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I think that it is higher than that. Cassel has already played at the baseline level (not that I think he will again). I won't say that he can't do it because he already has. Taylor can be absolutely anything (good or bad). We just haven't seen enough of him. EJ has the physical tools to do it if he puts it all together. Again, the odds are long (longer for some based on the opportunity) but I wouldn't say that it is zero. I'd probably have all 3 in the 1-25% but I'd be tempted to move Taylor into the 26-50%. I guess that I give him a 1 out of 3 chance of becoming Alex Smith. Cassel has NEVER been a Franchise QB and never will. Tyrod won't either based on what I have seen. EJ likely won't get the chance, but if he did even if he did...he would not be a FQB in 2015. I stand by my 0%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I'd feel better about his chances if he was going to be the starter. I don't know how he can prove he's a franchise QB this year when it looks like he'll sit the pine. I voted 1-25% because there is a very small possibility. I wish his odds were better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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