PlayoffsPlease Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 2013 EJ - maybe no Kiko - gone Woods, seems to be behind Watkins and Harvin 2014 Watkins - The chosen one Kouandjio - doesn't look to be ahead of henderson 2015 Darby - doing Darby things, may start of McKelvin isn't back. I know there are other rounds in the draft, but over time if you get one starter out of the first two round of three drafts, it tends to end up badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 2013 EJ - maybe no Kiko - gone Woods, seems to be behind Watkins and Harvin 2014 Watkins - The chosen one Kouandjio - doesn't look to be ahead of henderson 2015 Darby - doing Darby things, may start of McKelvin isn't back. I know there are other rounds in the draft, but over time if you get one starter out of the first two round of three drafts, it tends to end up badly. That's the sign of a stacked roster not bad drafting. And it's hard to use a player like Kiko as an example of a non starter when he was traded straight up for one of the best RBs in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Woods is not behind Harvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 2013 EJ - maybe no Kiko - gone Woods, seems to be behind Watkins and Harvin 2014 Watkins - The chosen one Kouandjio - doesn't look to be ahead of henderson 2015 Darby - doing Darby things, may start of McKelvin isn't back. I know there are other rounds in the draft, but over time if you get one starter out of the first two round of three drafts, it tends to end up badly. You missed quite a few: John Miller is the likely starter at RG If Cujo is not the starter at RT, it's because Seantrel Henderson is starting Preston Brown will again be a starting LB Duke Williams could still start at safety (although probably not) You missed quite a few: John Miller is the likely starter at RG If Cujo is not the starter at RT, it's because Seantrel Henderson is starting Preston Brown will again be a starting LB Duke Williams could still start at safety (although probably not) Ok, so you do mention the other rounds, but what does it matter where in the draft they get them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmasThoman Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 If this is meant to be a slight towards Doug Whaley, I think you should retract your post. Doug's a good man who has built a team that is going to be very fun to watch this season. It's important that we drop some of the cynicism that we've had for years as fans, and sit back and enjoy the ride like its 1990 all over again. This might be one of the best seasons in history, and we should all (myself included) town down some of the rhetoric and enjoy what we've been given. With that being said: For the 2013 draft, you seem to be marginalizing the impact of Woods to fit your argument. Robert Woods is a good receiver, and the free agent addition of a (potentially) "better" receiver in Harvin does not negate Woods' value to the team. Our third round pick that year was swapped for one of the 3 best running backs in the league, and that was after Kiko had missed an entire season due to injury--so that in and of itself is finding incredible value for an unnecessary asset. Marquis Goodwin is still very much on this team, and with Sammy Watkins, Harvin, and Woods having the importance to the team that they do, it says something about the skill set of a guy like Goodwin to still be considered more on the good side of the roster bubble than the bad--not to mention, he has world class speed, and showed it last night on a play that he took from one side of the field to another, with not a defender in sight. Duke Williams is an excellent safety, and he was selected in the 4th round, Meeks may not be as highly regarded as Duke, but he is still a player that figures to make the cut. The only players from that draft that haven't paid dividends are Gragg (TE) who is still on the roster, and may make the cut, although his position has been upgraded significantly; and Hopkins, the placekicker, who has been replaced by Carpenter, who is potentially a top 3 kicker in the league. So, by all measure, 2013 looks like a great draft to me, and a deft handling of the roster. Yes, EJ will always "define" that draft, but the only reason is because that's an easy narrative. The actual story is far more complex, and one that involves a GM beeing hoodwinked by a prank caller and forced into drafting a QB, a quarterback twisting his knee on a rubber mat; the strangest head coach/OC combination in Buffalo Bills history; and, currently, playing with the 3rd string offensive unit, a solid span of football with some nice throws and mobility--I'd be interested to see him getting some run with the 1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 You generally want 2-3 starters from the draft. It doesn't matter the round. Woods (Kiko) Watkins Brown Henderson Darby (from a draft with no 1st rounder) Miller ... You can't deny that the Bills have a lot of recent draft picks contributing in big ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 2013 EJ - maybe no Kiko - gone Woods, seems to be behind Watkins and Harvin 2014 Watkins - The chosen one Kouandjio - doesn't look to be ahead of henderson 2015 Darby - doing Darby things, may start of McKelvin isn't back. I know there are other rounds in the draft, but over time if you get one starter out of the first two round of three drafts, it tends to end up badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Worst Thread of the Year nominee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Wow, the idiots are out in full force this weekend. The drafts the last few years have been decent enough, last year's draft alone has 3 starters Sammy, Preston Brown, and cujo/henderson, this year Miller will start, and if McLovin is hurt, Darby will have a good chance to start, 2 years ago Woods and Duke could very well be starting week 1 as well. Turrible thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Worst Thread of the Year nominee. he's got two votes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Like if you ignore all the stuff that doesn't make my point, my point is totally valid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Like if you ignore all the stuff that doesn't make my point, my point is totally valid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Woods is not behind Harvin. yep,and that comes multiple sources including the talking cable bobbleheads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 i would tend to look at the overall talent (starters, depth, and role players) brought in over the past few years. look at the overall roster right now as compared to day one when this job officially became whaley's. i think that there is a bit of a difference there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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