3rdand12 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 They should narrow the goalposts instead of this rule change. I think both honestly. Make it even more edgy to the success percentages. That would change the thinking and give a bit of a reset to the game. If the 2 point gains ground (lol) then teams start staffing esp. for that feature which may push the game back to running game. would be interesting to watch that develop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 99.3% last year PAT's 99.6% the year before. I have no problem, but Philly's idea to move the 2 pt. to the 1 yard line would ahve been better in tandem with this change. The percentage only goes from 44% to 56% success at the one yard line so not a gimme, but would favor a big line, and dynamic backs. Anyone know a team like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm against this. Me too. They should narrow the goalposts instead of this rule change. This is what I thought too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I dont like moving the 2pc closer. 1yd? Doesnt that become more automatic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Just curious, why do they want teams going for two more? If they moved the ball to the 1 on conversion attempts, I think it teams would go for it way more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Carrington just became more valuable, no joke ! Yep, Bills ahead of the curve on signing megahand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm against this. I don't either. Probably just because I'm stubborn... but I'll really hate it the first time the Bills lose a meaningful game on a missed PAT.. or some goofy two point gimmick. I also recognize the obvious arguments about the 'real' football players making plays and winning the games... but it's just my two pennies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 Marrone is off sobbing quietly, having learned that punts are still worth zero points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I wish they would just get rid of the kick, not make it harder. Make the game less dependent on kicking. And yes, thinking now just another oppty for Bills fan heartbreak - how many amazing "game tying" TDs will be for nothing after missed extra pt..... I totally agree. I'm listening to John Murphy right now saying how this will make it more exciting, etc. Two years ago, they wanted to get rid of it all together. Which I was for. Why trick up the game and yes, we will have heartbreak over this. The extra point is pretty much the stupidest rule in sports. You earn your touchdown - what the !@#$ does a kick or play from the two after it have to do with it. No other sport messes with the scoring in this way. I just don't think it's in the interest of fairness. It's in the interest of making "things exciting" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) @MikeGarafolo: Important note: Extra point decisions can change after penalties. (e.g. a defensive penalty on a kick, offense can then go for 2 from the 1) Listened to the talking heads on TV but so far no one I saw mentioned if the penalty is on the offense. Line up to go for two, false start, are you committed to go for two from seven out or can you then line up for a 38 yard PAT kick? I would think you would be able to decide where you want those five yards added but have not heard anyone say so clearly. Edited May 20, 2015 by Coastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I'm not a fan of the rule. I was actually hoping that they would move the ball to the 1. This would keep the XP automatic but would encourage people to go for 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Can you imagine a team that runs the ball backwards to the 15 yard line and holds it for the kicker running with him? Would kinda be like the Flutie drop kick.supposedly you can still drop kick but has to snapped from the 15, can't snap on 2-yard line and drop kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 NFL Radio just had Giants kicker on talking with Polian. Bill said this -in effect, means PKs will kick an additional 55 33yrd FGs a year. The PKer said he'd been contemplating this and realizing his mid week schedule will have to be dramatically altered to assure fatigue doesn't become an issue. Interesting discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 NFL Radio just had Giants kicker on talking with Polian. Bill said this -in effect, means PKs will kick an additional 55 33yrd FGs a year. The PKer said he'd been contemplating this and realizing his mid week schedule will have to be dramatically altered to assure fatigue doesn't become an issue. Interesting discussion. But 55 fewer 21 yarders--- is the gap that big with regards to fatigue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 NFL Radio just had Giants kicker on talking with Polian. Bill said this -in effect, means PKs will kick an additional 55 33yrd FGs a year. The PKer said he'd been contemplating this and realizing his mid week schedule will have to be dramatically altered to assure fatigue doesn't become an issue. Interesting discussion. Sounds like more reason to have 2 kickers on the team.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonechiller Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Hate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Here's what Pat Kirwan had to say: From https://twitter.com/PatKirwanCBS/status/600785169239449600 the new xpt-33yd kick is a90% success rate and a 2 pt play is 47.8% success rate...Teams will keep kicking..I do like the ability to return last yr 1,293TDs only 100 were followed by a 2 point attempt-I suspect this year 2pt plays will still be about 7% of the extra pt plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Here's what Pat Kirwan had to say: From https://twitter.com/PatKirwanCBS/status/600785169239449600 the new xpt-33yd kick is a90% success rate and a 2 pt play is 47.8% success rate...Teams will keep kicking..I do like the ability to return last yr 1,293TDs only 100 were followed by a 2 point attempt-I suspect this year 2pt plays will still be about 7% of the extra pt plays I take it he didn't do the math 90% of 1 point = .9 probable points 47.8% of 2 points = .956 probable points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I take it he didn't do the math 90% of 1 point = .9 probable points 47.8% of 2 points = .956 probable points Hah I noticed that too, then remembered most nfl coaches don't do the math either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I take it he didn't do the math 90% of 1 point = .9 probable points 47.8% of 2 points = .956 probable points And yet coaches routinely ignore the odds for appearing to follow expectations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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