patfitz Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Seems that the Bills braintrust gets overly seduced by speed and let's this obsession cloud their draft decision-making. We can look at former first round pick Leo McKelvin who had and has great speed and may ironically be replaced with the latest speed acquisition, another guy touted as having world class speed but average to below average hands and has a hard time matching up with taller and more physical receivers. Sounds like Leo version 2 to me. Than we have (had) TJ Graham another speedster that the Bills overreached for an passed up Russell Wilson in the process. Where is TJ today? And let us not forget the "forgotten man" Marcus Goodwin, another track star that is essentially a no show getting hurt too frequently to make a difference. Of course another fist round pick, CJ Spiller was fast but that didn't last. So perhaps the Bills brass should slow it down and take a slower but more well rounded football player. Few track stars make it in the NFL maybe every 50 years we have a Bob" the bullet" yes (a personal favorite) and although they say speed can't be coached it also doesn't guarantee it won't turn out to be more than an illusion especially s to actually making plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 honestly don't know anything about the kid and really wanted Jake Fisher who I think will be a top LT. To your point we do pick a lot of "talent" instead of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 marquise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) It'd not just about speed with this guy. This guy can cover and not every dB can catch that's why they are db. I expect Donny Henderson to coach this guy up to be a excellent corner Edited May 2, 2015 by Protocal69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Mckelvin rules. Is this guy as good as mck? Sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 The current regime had little to do with McKelvin and Graham picks. Though, McKelvin has since turned into a pretty good CB, he was the unquestioned starter until he got hurt and led in INTs the year before. They also need to consider whether they'll be able to sign Gilmore to a big contract when he becomes a free agent. Given the off season they just had, the need to re-sign Dareus to a monster contract and the expectation that QB will have to become a big contract at some point. We're probably paying less for QBs than near anyone in the league... certainly anyone who's a playoff team. So finding that next CB is a pretty good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Somewhere, somehow, in a very faint way, an obscure draft "expert' mentioned Darby in the same sentence with Revis . . . Rex read it in the internet, and the pick was destined. Ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilLions Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 I was not impressed with his highlight clip, but then again that's the case for a lot of this draft. We'll probably appreciate this pick 3 years from now but would have preferred just about any other position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 The current regime had little to do with McKelvin and Graham picks. Though, McKelvin has since turned into a pretty good CB, he was the unquestioned starter until he got hurt and led in INTs the year before. They also need to consider whether they'll be able to sign Gilmore to a big contract when he becomes a free agent. Given the off season they just had, the need to re-sign Dareus to a monster contract and the expectation that QB will have to become a big contract at some point. We're probably paying less for QBs than near anyone in the league... certainly anyone who's a playoff team. So finding that next CB is a pretty good idea Yep. My guess is Gilmore walks after his rookie deal as they'll have so much tied up in Hughes, Dareus, Mario, etc. and hopefully in a QB. Can't pay 'em all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 "You can't teach Speed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Somewhere, somehow, in a very faint way, an obscure draft "expert' mentioned Darby in the same sentence with Revis . . . Rex read it in the internet, and the pick was destined. Ugh! Can we all stop with this. It's not an amazing pick (although, for the record, he was on the 5 or so players I really wanted when we came to the podium), nor is it a sexy pick, but it is a solid #50 pick, and anything but a reach. Darby was a very highly regarded CB throughout the web, not just one "obscure draft 'expert'." CBS Sports had him as the #30 prospect. Walter Football (yeah, i know) listed him as the #5 CB in the draft. Most sites I saw listed him as an early 2nd rounder, with some possibility of going in the late 20s. Fanspeak had him in the 40s. My co-worker and draft obsessive (he's in multiple college football fantasy leagues) went to FSU and is a fanatic about them (a Fins fan unfortunately), and has hawkishly watched his every game was touting him as someone who would be a steal for the Bills at 50. Moreover, his opponents knew him as he was the least thrown at cornerback in all of college football. He allowed only 9 receptions and no TDs in 2013. I know the TBD treehouse has a "NO CBs" sign by the door, but with all the talk here about this being a passing league, how exactly do you stop them...with excellent CB play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Can we all stop with this. It's not an amazing pick (although, for the record, he was on the 5 or so players I really wanted when we came to the podium), nor is it a sexy pick, but it is a solid #50 pick, and anything but a reach. Darby was a very highly regarded CB throughout the web, not just one "obscure draft 'expert'." CBS Sports had him as the #30 prospect. Walter Football (yeah, i know) listed him as the #5 CB in the draft. Most sites I saw listed him as an early 2nd rounder, with some possibility of going in the late 20s. Fanspeak had him in the 40s. My co-worker and draft obsessive (he's in multiple college football fantasy leagues) went to FSU and is a fanatic about them (a Fins fan unfortunately), and has hawkishly watched his every game was touting him as someone who would be a steal for the Bills at 50. Moreover, his opponents knew him as he was the least thrown at cornerback in all of college football. He allowed only 9 receptions and no TDs in 2013. I know the TBD treehouse has a "NO CBs" sign by the door, but with all the talk here about this being a passing league, how exactly do you stop them...with excellent CB play. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Leodis' early problems were with his brain. He has been very good once he learned the position. If Darby is a just little smarter than Loedis, which i don't think is that hard, he will be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Seems that the Bills braintrust gets overly seduced by speed and let's this obsession cloud their draft decision-making. We can look at former first round pick Leo McKelvin who had and has great speed and may ironically be replaced with the latest speed acquisition, another guy touted as having world class speed but average to below average hands and has a hard time matching up with taller and more physical receivers. Sounds like Leo version 2 to me. Than we have (had) TJ Graham another speedster that the Bills overreached for an passed up Russell Wilson in the process. Where is TJ today? And let us not forget the "forgotten man" Marcus Goodwin, another track star that is essentially a no show getting hurt too frequently to make a difference. Of course another fist round pick, CJ Spiller was fast but that didn't last. So perhaps the Bills brass should slow it down and take a slower but more well rounded football player. Few track stars make it in the NFL maybe every 50 years we have a Bob" the bullet" yes (a personal favorite) and although they say speed can't be coached it also doesn't guarantee it won't turn out to be more than an illusion especially s to actually making plays.Speed kills....I mean speed doesn't kill people, Bradham does!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) Can we all stop with this. It's not an amazing pick (although, for the record, he was on the 5 or so players I really wanted.....it's a passing league exactly do you stop them...with excellent CB play.or w pass rush, I'd just as soon let Mario Williams walk in 2 years and use the money for dareus,Gilmore and a qb...we could have drafted a nice pass rusher at 50 instead. Edited May 2, 2015 by enlightener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 The bills didnt give the fans what they wanted They gave them what they NEEDED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Leodis' early problems were with his brain. He has been very good once he learned the position. If Darby is a just little smarter than Loedis, which i don't think is that hard, he will be great. Once McKelvin got with Pettin and that defensive coaching staff he started to really turn things around. They simplified the game for him and played to his man to man coverage strengths. Good coaching goes a long way towards player development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 or w pass rush, I'd just as soon let Mario Williams walk in 2 years and use the money for dareus,Gilmore and a qb...we could have drafted a nice pass rusher at 50 instead.Really wanted the kid from Miss. St. Preston Smith. If they had more picks he could have been a trade up and get possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I get the feeling the OP has been on netflix a lot recently. For those not on netflix; they have a few new documentaries based on animals that attack quickly called "Speed Kills: (insert place)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tintonfallsbillsfan Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Darby had 9 passes completed against hi during the entire 2013 season . Mckelvin and Graham are both 30 , and they count for 9 million against the cap in 2016 and btw they are not that good. This is both a value and a need pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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