TPS Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Take this talk to PPP buddy. ☺It's an interesting question that rodak raised: is the capitalist form of organization better than the socialist form when it comes to a football roster? What's the best way to allocate the pie in order to achieve a winning team? Let it begin... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I don't think Whaley is thinking of guys like Freddy and leodis. More like Chris Williams, Jonathan Meeks, Ron brooks, glass goodwin, and manny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I agree, also. But, this article referred to 2016, as well. I strongly suspect that Freddie will be gracefully cut/retired after this season, and we will all feel good about it. The writing is certainly on the wall. And, really hoping that he gets to play a game in the post season. GO BILLS! Oh, definitely. This is Fred's last season on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I don't think Whaley is thinking of guys like Freddy and leodis. More like Chris Williams, Jonathan Meeks, Ron brooks, glass goodwin, and manny. If Meeks is middle class who the hell is your lower class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 If Meeks is middle class who the hell is your lower class? Haha. Is Collin Brown still around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Haha. Is Collin Brown still around? For real though, for middle class think any guy not on a rookie contract that wouldn't be in the top 10 or so at his position. Those are guys you should expect to be constantly pushed by guys that are younger and cheaper. Fred, manny and Leo are textbook. Spikes, searcy, etc....You take bpa even at their positions and kind of backfill the roster behind those talent infusions to fill gaps unless you get the hometown discount along the way from the vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 If McKelvin is middle class, then Corey Graham, who PFF had rated the 5th best CB last year, is what? IT startup guy who gets venture capital investment payday? Dude who decided to start charging $4.00 for coffee? How about: Terry Pegula? Dude who ignores assclowns, does his job extremely well, and is now recognized as one of the best businessmen in the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Fred is facing uphill odds to make the roster. I think he gets cut during preseason and then has to wait for another team to lose a RB to injury before he is signed. I don't like it but that is the feeling I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 No cap issues until they get a franchise QB. Fred won't make it out of training camp. He is a wonderful 3rd down pass blocker - nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 No cap issues until they get a franchise QB. Fred won't make it out of training camp. He is a wonderful 3rd down pass blocker - nothing more. I'll take that bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I'll take that bet. Me too. I would say it is more likely that we see fred playing in a week 17 game than him getting cut. I don't get how people bet against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 It's an interesting question that rodak raised: is the capitalist form of organization better than the socialist form when it comes to a football roster? What's the best way to allocate the pie in order to achieve a winning team? Let it begin... :-) Well, this is a good example of what asymmetric price controls can do. It's a star driven league and you have to pay market rate for the stars. But with the salary cap, you can't pay everyone what they're truly worth. So of course the guys in the middle get squeezed out. This has been the case ever since free agency and salary cap started. It's just a new phenomenon for Bills fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Pegula already protected Freddy's roster spot for this season, and there's no way Rex is cutting a man-corner like McKelvin unless his speed is all of a sudden shot, or they draft an outside CB in Round 2 who can start right away (and even then, Rex loves his corners). Lawson also fits the Rex D - he can cover TEs pretty well. Recall that Rex has a history of working with "middle class" vets in his defense - Landry, Pace, Scott, Harris, DeVito, Cro, etc. It's a nice idea but not likely to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Pegula already protected Freddy's roster spot for this season, and there's no way Rex is cutting a man-corner like McKelvin unless his speed is all of a sudden shot, or they draft an outside CB in Round 2 who can start right away (and even then, Rex loves his corners). Lawson also fits the Rex D - he can cover TEs pretty well. Recall that Rex has a history of working with "middle class" vets in his defense - Landry, Pace, Scott, Harris, DeVito, Cro, etc. It's a nice idea but not likely to happen. I think they are talking about next year but I agree about McKelvin. He doesn't have a big cap hit and has played extremely well the last couple of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Does Eric Wood fall into this "Middle Class"? I'm not suggesting cutting him but could or would the Bills dispose of him and his contract in some other way(s)? I'm just wondering.....it probably could depend on his performance this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 it probably could depend on his performance this year really, he is not one of the cornerstone players. if an opportunity to replace him cheaper comes - they would likely take it, but they probably wont cut him just for fun or anything. Right now anyone that is not mccoy, sammy, mario, MD, and probably clay could be considered "middle class." think the pats with brady, gronk, wilfork for a long time, but being willing to churn even very good players out of the system if an opportunity came along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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