Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Mallett is an interesting thought. I guess there would be little downside to swapping him with Tuel as the "developmental" QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNMBillsFan Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 and orton would puking his guts out I agree, i don't think an IV of JD at half time would get him through a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 How many seasons are you willing to part with to get there (if ever)? This season, for one. We aren't going to thye playoffs so why is Orton in. Oh, that's right , he's got a great QB rating vs the Nyets:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 The Bills offense is anything but a Ferrari even if they had Peyton behind the wheel. Still no receiving TE, Chandler is a shadow of his former self and his former self was average at best. The OL is a mess again, after 15 years of poor OL play one would think we could put together a decent unit. We improved last year but this year is two steps back. The best rushing attack in the league has been transformed into something very below average, with or without FJax and CJ. The WRs are no better this year than in years past. First four games they were afraid to run their routes for fear of getting killed. Now, there is no consistency, Sammy has done nothing for a month. Woods and Hogan are both off and on. There are no draw plays, counter plays, end arounds or well designed screens they are just not in the game plan Very little pre-snap movement, we never try to freeze a defender with fake hand-off. Nothing is ever done to try to confuse a defense. Unless being very obvious with a run up the middle or around the end is meant to confuse them with its naivete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Nice to see you back, Bill. I hope all is well with you and yours. I look forward to your postgame post after we beat Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Mallett is an interesting thought. I guess there would be little downside to swapping him with Tuel as the "developmental" QB. The above was my exact point. And I will add that Cutler makes at least 17 million, right. So does Stafford and as I recall Flacco gets 21 mil. Orton, EJ and Mallet combined would earn approx. 10 mil. so it wouldn't be tough on the purse nor the salary cap. You don't have to revamp the entire offense at all with the new QB change. Marrone and Hackett brag they can run multiple offenses out of their playbook. They have already run all the formations and plays they need to run to be successful IMO. It's just a matter of practicing and using the correct groupings, formations, plays, etc that are already there and scrapping others that play to our weaknesses. Happy Holidays Bill. Thanks Bro. I used to think the same but James Lofton said otherwise. He said that the offense had to be completely revamped because of the switch to Orton and credited Hackett. [*]The WRs are no better this year than in years past. First four games they were afraid to run their routes for fear of getting killed. Now, there is no consistency, Sammy has done nothing for a month. Woods and Hogan are both off and on. Your complaints about the OL are valid. I cannot however agree wit the above. Watkins, whether one agrees with the trade or not, is great (although seemingly hampered by injury). Woods is much improved and actually took over a football game. Hogan is an interesting wideout. Great? Of course not but I sure will take him over TJ Graham. Btw, the Watkins trade will debated for years and for good reason. I can totally see both sides of the issue. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Bill, I haven't seen your "in no particular order" posts in a couple of weeks. Your slacking bud. :-). Usually I agree with most of your comments, but not on Mallet and Hacket. With Mallet, if we picked him up for the league minimum and work him out, maybe, but I haven't seen anything to suggest a franchise QB. As far as Hacket, I was listening to Brad Hopkins and James Lofton as well, and Lofton tried to say he was impressed how Hackett prepped for an EJ offense with read option stuff, to a pocket QB in Orton. I understand the point, but he should have more successfully adapted at a faster pace. To go from the 2nd highest rushing team to 20th, sucks. Yes, Fred and CJ were hurt, but CJ was ineffective before his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Thanks Bro. I used to think the same but James Lofton said otherwise. He said that the offense had to be completely revamped because of the switch to Orton and credited Hackett. But we have already seen all of the offense he needs to run. So he needs to completely revamp the offense again just so he can run the same formations and plays? The point isn't the offense has to change, as I said. The point is of the plays they already have and practice, he needs to swap the amount of 8-9 in the box inducing plays with the amount of extra 1-2 DB away from the OL inducing plays. That change takes 35 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Flutie Band Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 lol mallet bad idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 This season, for one. We aren't going to thye playoffs so why is Orton in. Oh, that's right , he's got a great QB rating vs the Nyets:( Orton's in because EJ is not a viable NFL QB. It's not hard to figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Orton's in because EJ is not a viable NFL QB. It's not hard to figure out. apparently it is. Management never wanted EJ to start but to sit and learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 apparently it is. Management never wanted EJ to start but to sit and learn Now he has the opportunity to do just that. Right now he is not a viable NFL QB. The post I responded to suggest we bench Orton and play EJ. I disagreed. Do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I actually watched most of the Texans-Bengals game on Sunday and Mallett played as poorly as I've seen a QB play in quite some time. He looked flat out awful. I agree to an extent. Unless you have watched Gary Marangi, you haven't seen the worst. As for Mallet, he was consistently throwing behind his receivers. Unable to lead his receivers at all. It was not a pretty sight...... I agree to an extent. Unless you have watched Gary Marangi, you haven't seen the worst. As for Mallet, he was consistently throwing behind his receivers. Unable to lead his receivers at all. It was not a pretty sight...... I forgot to add it was very much like Manuel's throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Did he have it the whole game? If so, then I guess I'd grant him a reprieve on that but man he looked terrible. But if he looked like Tom Brady in his first start and in his second start he was hurt so his performance doesn't count, then I would venture to guess he won't be so readily available. Yes http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11928065/ryan-mallett-houston-texans-played-right-pectoral-injury-vs-cincinnati-bengals Mallett still doesn't have a whole portfolio of work, but that game was particularly bad due to injury. At this point he is worth the low draft choice the Texans paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Bill, thank you for one time not having some random GD lyrics in your OP - - not all of us are Dead fans.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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