machinist Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Does the Pat's O.C. get his shot to be a head coach in 2015 ????? Yes he has had Brady but tonight watching his offense own Indy with Brady looking ordinary this Sunday night .........color me impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norton20 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I think he does but he has a good situation in New England and can pick and choose his spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Ran the offense in DEN as HC and STL as OC. Didn't look so great at either stop. Wasted a #1 pick on Tebow. NE Coordinators, including McDaniels, have a history of failure as HCs of other NFL teams. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Yeah, well I started a post advocating for Buffalo to get him, especially if we're stuck with Orton. Seeing that he coached him before and that he was an apprentice of Belichick and being in our own division I believe that McDaniels would be a great hire. This Marrone has got to go, he's such a buzz killer. Our defense flies around, which I believe is because of Schwartz not Marrone and our offense is a joke. We need new blood and young blood to get some energy going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinist Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 Just getting a feel for what Buffalonians think about him. Seems like it could either go really good or really bad with no middle ground. Figured his stint in Denver and the Tebow love fest might be put into the "cons" column. I have a feeling there will not be big changes at One Bills Drive after the season and that there is only a slim possibility of Hackett being canned. My concern is Shwartz receiving a shot at a HC position as there seem to be a lot of teams that may be looking to make a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjack151 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Ran the offense in DEN as HC and STL as OC. Didn't look so great at either stop. Wasted a #1 pick on Tebow. NE Coordinators, including McDaniels, have a history of failure as HCs of other NFL teams. Pass. I'd like to expand this thought a bit if I may. Is it just me, or does it seem awfully strange that none of the coordinators under Belichick have had much success elsewhere? Weiss, Crommell, McDaniels,....none have made it as head coaches anywhere. Furthermore, I think about how some of the players that were so good in NE but not elsewhere: Cassel, Branch, Law, Seymore...to name a few. Is this all coincidence? Forgive my suspicion (and my terrible spelling) but I have a hard time believing that NE still doesn't have integrity issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I'd like to expand this thought a bit if I may. Is it just me, or does it seem awfully strange that none of the coordinators under Belichick have had much success elsewhere? Weiss, Crommell, McDaniels,....none have made it as head coaches anywhere. Furthermore, I think about how some of the players that were so good in NE but not elsewhere: Cassel, Branch, Law, Seymore...to name a few. Is this all coincidence? Forgive my suspicion (and my terrible spelling) but I have a hard time believing that NE still doesn't have integrity issues. You can add Belichick had no success elsewhere without Brady. Brady made Belichick. He may be a fantastic DC but he is an overrated HC. The Patriots dynasty is all about Brady. Only Montana is in his league. If Rodgers wins a couple more Championships he might enter the discussion but that is unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 You can add Belichick had no success elsewhere without Brady. Brady made Belichick. He may be a fantastic DC but he is an overrated HC. The Patriots dynasty is all about Brady. Only Montana is in his league. If Rodgers wins a couple more Championships he might enter the discussion but that is unlikely. I would actually disagree. They wouldn't exist without one another. If Brady doesn't have the ability to lean on the defense during the 2001, 2003 and 2004 season, there is no way they make the dance. Frankly, the teams they put a whooping on during those seasons didn't exactly have respectable or stellar defenses. And vice-versa, if Billy boy doesn't have Tommy the past 5-6 years, I highly doubt that he would even be around. In essence, their scenario was just destined to be intertwined. One would not be without the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I'd like to expand this thought a bit if I may. Is it just me, or does it seem awfully strange that none of the coordinators under Belichick have had much success elsewhere? Weiss, Crommell, McDaniels,....none have made it as head coaches anywhere. Furthermore, I think about how some of the players that were so good in NE but not elsewhere: Cassel, Branch, Law, Seymore...to name a few. Is this all coincidence? Forgive my suspicion (and my terrible spelling) but I have a hard time believing that NE still doesn't have integrity issues. It's like they know what plays are coming from the other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterthegator Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I live in NE and Pats fans want him GONE! Admittedly, his play calling only began to get better, once A) the offensive line meshed B) a running game was established. McDaniel also lost some of his play calling responsibility as well if I recall. Not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Ran the offense in DEN as HC and STL as OC. Didn't look so great at either stop. Wasted a #1 pick on Tebow. NE Coordinators, including McDaniels, have a history of failure as HCs of other NFL teams. Pass. This CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Definitely don't won't Josh in Buffalo. While I like the fact that he's aggressive, I don't like that he's a cheater. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) I'd like to expand this thought a bit if I may. Is it just me, or does it seem awfully strange that none of the coordinators under Belichick have had much success elsewhere? Weiss, Crommell, McDaniels,....none have made it as head coaches anywhere. Furthermore, I think about how some of the players that were so good in NE but not elsewhere: Cassel, Branch, Law, Seymore...to name a few. Is this all coincidence? Forgive my suspicion (and my terrible spelling) but I have a hard time believing that NE still doesn't have integrity issues. http://www.amazon.co...y/dp/0985467002 You are not alone. Let's not forget Scott Pioli in KC...utter failure at GM. Edited November 17, 2014 by filthymcnasty08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 If you want a 2nd chance coach its Gary Kubiak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 BRING BACK WADE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 It doesn't matter who the Pats OC is, they have Brady. Same thing in Denver with Manning. These are two NFL Hall of Fame QBs who have seen it all/done it all. I think Marrone's biggest problem was bringing Hackett with him. He sucks. He's way too predictable, then tries to do something cute but the Defense was expecting anyway. He always seems to attack an opponent's strength which leads to a whole lot of three and outs. "It's a terrible run D? Let's air it out!" That said, I doubt he's going anywhere. Now, if we are able to find a Manning/Brady somewhere in the draft, it won't matter who the OC is once they grow into themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 You can add Belichick had no success elsewhere without Brady. Brady made Belichick. He may be a fantastic DC but he is an overrated HC. The Patriots dynasty is all about Brady. Only Montana is in his league. If Rodgers wins a couple more Championships he might enter the discussion but that is unlikely. Brady is an all time great QB. No question. But BB is the brains of that operation IMO. When I look at that team, I'm pretty sure they would be outstanding even with a lesser quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Ran the offense in DEN as HC and STL as OC. Didn't look so great at either stop. Wasted a #1 pick on Tebow. NE Coordinators, including McDaniels, have a history of failure as HCs of other NFL teams. Pass. Couldn't be any worse than our OC i'll take him over Hackett & if he does better here with our offense then make him a HC ... By the way who determined that the Teabow pick was any worse than the EJ pick ? Hell i'd say the Teabow pick was a bit better at least he could rally the troops in crunch time to win & he took them to the play offs . Plus one for Teabow !! Edited November 17, 2014 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Couldn't be any worse than our OC i'll take him over Hackett & if he does better here with our offense then make him a HC ... By the way who determined that the Teabow pick was any worse than the EJ pick ? Hell i'd say the Teabow pick was a bit better at least he could rally the troops in crunch time to win & he took them to the play offs . Plus one for Teabow !! They were both terrible picks that call into serious question the competence of those who made them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 McDaniels had some successes in his drafts too. I think there were still 10 players he drafted/signed as UDFAs on last year's Super Bowl Broncos team. He was clearly too immature to be a head coach the first time around. He'll get his second shot very soon, and while I would prefer others (Gary Kubiak for one), I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him in next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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