Beerball Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Anyone else assume that this thread was in some way related to Antonio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 You're basing that off what? Do you know me? Lots of company men around here. I guess we should all be O.K. with waiting a half-hour (at 12:15 p.m.) to get in through a so-called "super gate" and the organization should take zero blame for it. Waiting half an our less than an hour before kickoff?? I think that's pretty reasonable. I've been to a bunch of Raider games and that's usually the best part of the day. It's nucking futs and everyone gets amped up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Waiting half an our less than an hour before kickoff?? I think that's pretty reasonable. I've been to a bunch of Raider games and that's usually the best part of the day. It's nucking futs and everyone gets amped up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 If you waited 30 minutes to get in, it's your own fault. Some gates had little or no lines all day. If everyone entered the gate near their section, it wouldn't be a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Didn't attend the game so have no business commenting. But I will. When I read they were reducing the # of gates, and creating a "Super Gate" that was supposed to make it quicker to get into the game, I shook my head in disbelief. Fewer gates means more people congested into fewer areas. Super Gate suggest a LOT more people forced into a single area. I never bought the advantage. Had I been able to attend, my strategy would have been to avoid the Super Gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) Didn't attend the game so have no business commenting. But I will. When I read they were reducing the # of gates, and creating a "Super Gate" that was supposed to make it quicker to get into the game, I shook my head in disbelief. Fewer gates means more people congested into fewer areas. Super Gate suggest a LOT more people forced into a single area. I never bought the advantage. Had I been able to attend, my strategy would have been to avoid the Super Gate. From the linked article: "While the number of gates dropped from nine to six as part of the $130 million in improvements that debuted last week, the new entrances were almost doubled in size, said Berchtold. ". There isn't one super gate - there are six and the total entrance area is greater than before, even with fewer gates. Edited September 21, 2014 by WotAGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 From the linked article: "While the number of gates dropped from nine to six as part of the $130 million in improvements that debuted last week, the new entrances were almost doubled in size, said Berchtold. " Yes. My position doesn't change though. Two gates, in two different locations, are better than one twice the size, IMO. For several reasons, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Not sure what the gate number was that I entered through. It was on the visitor's side of the stadium about 1/2 way between end zones. Foot traffic flowed very quickly. We spent less than 2 minutes in line. Got right in. We headed in about 12:20 to make the Ralph tribute. I thought they handled that crowd far better at this game than they had in previous years. Yes. My position doesn't change though. Two gates, in two different locations, are better than one twice the size, IMO. For several reasons, actually. Nope... If you experienced the improvements, you would disagree with what you are saying. The gates are better. Traffic flowed much faster than last year. at least in the gate I entered it did. Way way better than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Not sure what the gate number was that I entered through. It was on the visitor's side of the stadium about 1/2 way between end zones. Foot traffic flowed very quickly. We spent less than 2 minutes in line. Got right in. We headed in about 12:20 to make the Ralph tribute. I thought they handled that crowd far better at this game than they had in previous years. Nope... If you experienced the improvements, you would disagree with what you are saying. The gates are better. Traffic flowed much faster than last year. at least in the gate I entered it did. Way way better than last year. Even if that was the case at your gate, for the Miami game. Fewer entrances are more susceptible to problems. Think of it this way, would you rather have multiple roads to the stadium, or fewer roads with more lanes? And accident can screw up even the largest road. Same with a gate. Problem with scanners, big fight, insert your own congesting inducing disruptions here. It's easier to avoid the trouble spots with more options. Perhaps your gate was smooth because many people were enticed by the Super Gate (after all it is "Super"). Maybe folks who got stuck in the delay will start spreading to the other gates and then you may see a bit more congestion. Or, it might all straighten itself out. I guess time will tell. You have to understand, I'm a guy who avoids the major roads during rush hour. The highway might be faster, when all goes well. But too many times all doesn't go well and the whole thing comes to a standstill. I like to be in position to quickly turn onto another road, if I sense trouble. I'll actually go out of my way, just to keep moving. Or, if all else fails, find somewhere (like a bar) to stop and chill and wait for things to die down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) Dean Dude.. you have to see the gates. There are more lines for people to enter. Not less. They may have combined gates, but the new gates are wider with more lanes for people to enter through. Traffic flows faster because the gates are wider with more lanes. You have to see it. It is not how you are imagining. Gates are wide, really wide. The gate I went through is so wide you couldn't shout to someone from one side to the other. In previous years everyone was crammed into a handful of lanes. Now there are like 5x that amount in one gate or at least the gate I went through. In fact, they are wider than at any stadium I have ever been to. And I have been to a number of NFL stadiums. I can't think of any with gates as wide as the Bills. And inside the stadium was improved too. I used to have to snake down a set of stairs packed with slow moving traffic to get to the main walkway in the stadium. Now it is like six steps. It took me a small fraction of time to get to my seats compared to previous years. Maybe parts of the stadium are effed up, but the section I have entered through for years is 10x better than it ever was. Edited September 21, 2014 by PolishDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Had I been able to attend, my strategy would have been to avoid the Super Gate. Then you never would have gotten in. All the gates were replaced with Super Gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthokeefe Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 i was on the opposite side of the stadium i think gate six and we walked in at 1245 with about a 5 minute wait...people are by nature followers and dummies..i NEVER would have stood in a massive slow moving gate when there are 6 other ones....use common sense people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Then you never would have gotten in. All the gates were replaced with Super Gates. Are they all the same size, Jack? I believe I read there would be one particularly "super" gate. Dean Dude.. you have to see the gates. There are more lines for people to enter. Not less. They may have combined gates, but the new gates are wider with more lanes for people to enter through. Traffic flows faster because the gates are wider with more lanes. You have to see it. It is not how you are imagining. Gates are wide, really wide. The gate I went through is so wide you couldn't shout to someone from one side to the other. In previous years everyone was crammed into a handful of lanes. Now there are like 5x that amount in one gate or at least the gate I went through. In fact, they are wider than at any stadium I have ever been to. And I have been to a number of NFL stadiums. I can't think of any with gates as wide as the Bills. And inside the stadium was improved too. I used to have to snake down a set of stairs packed with slow moving traffic to get to the main walkway in the stadium. Now it is like six steps. It took me a small fraction of time to get to my seats compared to previous years. Maybe parts of the stadium are effed up, but the section I have entered through for years is 10x better than it ever was. Well we are already hearing about one gate where things didn't go well at all. Another gate, closer by, might have helped relieve some of the pressure. I don't know (as I said, I have no business posting in this thread), But that was my expectation when I heard they were reducing the number of gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Are they all the same size, Jack? I believe I read there would be one particularly "super" gate. They are all super gates now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 They are all super gates now. Then I guess it would be tough for me to avoid them. Seriously are the all the same size? What about the "front door"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 i was on the opposite side of the stadium i think gate six and we walked in at 1245 with about a 5 minute wait...people are by nature followers and dummies..i NEVER would have stood in a massive slow moving gate when there are 6 other ones....use common sense people You used a different gate? How DARE you make excuses for this organization! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The thing is, I never had any problems getting into the game before the remodel. Typically I started walking to the stadium and while I was walking toward the gate closest to my seat, I'd just pop in at any gate that had a small line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Then I guess it would be tough for me to avoid them. Seriously are the all the same size? What about the "front door"? The front door is the store on Abbott. Here's a link... http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/10-big-changes-unveiled-at-Ralph-Wilson-Stadium-/0a114437-77aa-4834-8b6d-82fed2e1d8b3 Note the pic for the item 3)Improved Entry, is Gate 2. You can gauge the size by the truck placed on top of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The front door is the store on Abbott. Here's a link... http://www.buffalobi...6d-82fed2e1d8b3 Note the pic for the item 3)Improved Entry, is Gate 2. You can gauge the size by the truck placed on top of it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 Lots of company men around here. Me...a company man?? LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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