BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) is there a link as to when he failed a coke test since arriving in the NFL? Are there pics? Anything? Just wondering since that is a fairly libelous statement. ummmm to your comment see pic below,,, looking at the pic above with the cash, just by looking at his eyes ..... the dude is stoned http://www.cbssports...onstop-partying Edited September 5, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 ummmm to your comment see pic below,,, looking at the pic above with the cash, just by looking at his eyes ..... the dude is stoned http://www.cbssports...onstop-partying origami ??..... laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 ummmm to your comment see pic below,,, looking at the pic above with the cash, just by looking at his eyes ..... the dude is stoned http://www.cbssports...onstop-partying Yep, thats the pic that was circulated on TMZ. What was the charge? Other than being stupid? Thankfully no one here was ever that dumb as a kid. well except maybe me, I admit to that. That reminds me of the TMZ pic of a guy we called SJ13 lighting up a cigar With C-notes on sunset strip. it was day or two after he signed his extension. He looked like he was drinking more than coffee too. Look it up it was never mentioned on this board though. of course he was a bIll so he is immune to criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 ummmm to your comment see pic below,,, looking at the pic above with the cash, just by looking at his eyes ..... the dude is stoned http://www.cbssports...onstop-partying He is just making sure that 20 dollar bill is crisp for the hook...stripper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 is there a link as to when he failed a coke test since arriving in the NFL? Are there pics? Anything? Just wondering since that is a fairly libelous statement. Well, also look up how long that particular drug stays in your system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Well, also look up how long that particular drug stays in your system... "I can't prove anything, and I'm totally not biased even though every JFF post I have is filled with deep seated anger. He definitely did coke, seriously." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Namath had a reason to be brash. He had legit NFL talent and proved his worth on the field. I have no problem with confidence or swagger when it's matched up with performance. However, when someone has no legit reason for accolades, attention, or attitude, you'll see me take issue. Recent examples are Tebow, Michael Sam, and Manziel. Namath really wasn't that good. Football was different then but really one good season and lots of knee injuries....way overrated. But I do enjoy him as a lovable Dean Martin football drunk guy thing he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 is there a link as to when he failed a coke test since arriving in the NFL? Are there pics? Anything? Just wondering since that is a fairly libelous statement. It was a joke. CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 It was a joke. CBF true but the pic I posted shows circumstantial / incriminating evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Namath really wasn't that good. Football was different then but really one good season and lots of knee injuries....way overrated. But I do enjoy him as a lovable Dean Martin football drunk guy thing he does. Can you tell the story of professional football without including Namath? Nope! You simply cannot measure the man's impact on the game by strictly examining statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 true but the pic I posted shows circumstantial / incriminating evidence Thanks. I was going to explain the pic and defend my joke but I thought it wasnt worth it. Thanks for getting the point of my joke CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 Can you tell the story of professional football without including Namath? Nope! You simply cannot measure the man's impact on the game by strictly examining statistics. btw namaths lifestyle as a nfl QB was 30 yrs ago and he is an outlier. Johnny leads the league in trademarks (10) but has 0 stats. Andrew Luck has lots of opportunities to trademark crap ( his last name is Luck and he plays for a team whose logo is a freaking horseshoe) but he's too busy trying to win football games to waste time on that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Can you tell the story of professional football without including Namath? Nope! You simply cannot measure the man's impact on the game by strictly examining statistics. Namath was brash and arrogant before he went into the NFL. I'm sorry, but you're applying a double standard here. Unless you hated Namath before he played in the AFL, you're misremembering. Edited September 5, 2014 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Well, also look up how long that particular drug stays in your system... In the blood very short, in the hair? You tell me. Unless the CBA does not allow that. It was a joke. CBF But not a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Namath was brash and arrogant before he went into the NFL. I'm sorry, but you're applying a double standard here. Unless you hated Namath before he played in the AFL, you're misremembering. Yep he was. He was great at Alabama and he was great in the AFL too. Great arm and the best release I've ever see on a QB. Would have been even better if not for his knee injuries. OTOH, with Manziel I'm not buying his game working in the NFL and he's focused on the wrong things. No double standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 btw namaths lifestyle as a nfl QB was 30 yrs ago and he is an outlier. Johnny leads the league in trademarks (10) but has 0 stats. Andrew Luck has lots of opportunities to trademark crap ( his last name is Luck and he plays for a team whose logo is a freaking horseshoe) but he's too busy trying to win football games to waste time on that stuff. That's because Luck KNOWS he is headed for a $100,000,000.00+ contract while Manziel is just trying to be able to buy a bottle of Spades every so often and get to hang out with a few famous people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 "I can't prove anything, and I'm totally not biased even though every JFF post I have is filled with deep seated anger. He definitely did coke, seriously." i think you have lost the right to pull that card on anyone else at this point. im sorry man, you are just too extreme in the opposite direction to get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Yep he was. He was great at Alabama and he was great in the AFL too. Great arm and the best release I've ever see on a QB. Would have been even better if not for his knee injuries. OTOH, with Manziel I'm not buying his game working in the NFL and he's focused on the wrong things. No double standard Well, I don't know about that. Namath had a reason to be brash. He had legit NFL talent and proved his worth on the field. I have no problem with confidence or swagger when it's matched up with performance. However, when someone has no legit reason for accolades, attention, or attitude, you'll see me take issue. Recent examples are Tebow, Michael Sam, and Manziel. Before the NFL, both Namath and Johnny dominated in college. Johnny was the first Heisman freshmen ever. Yet, he has no reason to be cocky, but Namath does, because you believed Namath would be great and you don't think Johnny will be? That seems a little arbitrary, but okay. To say Johnny has no reason to be cocky is ridiculous. If Johnny has no reason to be cocky, neither did Namath. Hence, my double standard comment. Also, you says Johnny is focused on the wrong things? Are you talking about his partying lifestyle? Guess who is the person in this snippet? "His first few years in New York were more notable for his antics than his play. Blank quickly became a fixture in New York's nightlife partying until the wee hours with Johnnie Walker Red and filtered cigarettes. His dalliances with numerous women were the talk of the town. He grew a Fu Manchu mustache, invested in a Manhattan club called Bachelors III and claimed that he'd "rather go to Vietnam than get married." Although his behavior may not have been so different than that of his peers, Namath was as unafraid in the public eye as he had been on the field which led to greater press coverage of his lifestyle." Does that sound familiar? Unafraid of the press coverage? Notable for his antics? Like I said, you're misremembering. In your younger days, you probably didn't care as much about "antics." But I knew many older folks who absolutely hated Namath when he came into the professional league. Similar to what we're seeing now. i think you have lost the right to pull that card on anyone else at this point. im sorry man, you are just too extreme in the opposite direction to get away with it. You can't take away my rights, I'm an American! Edited September 5, 2014 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Namath really wasn't that good. Football was different then but really one good season and lots of knee injuries....way overrated. But I do enjoy him as a lovable Dean Martin football drunk guy thing he does. Namath certainly was good. Very good. It's too bad the knee injury he sustained in college robbed him of his legs and running ability. He was a unique athlete that could put pressure on a defense with his legs. After that injury and the subsequent knee injuries in the pros he had to rely on his arm and smarts, which he had in abundance. He called a masterful game and his release and arm strength were better than anyone not named Marino. People tend to get stuck on stats, but that tells little of the story of Namath. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Well, I don't know about that. Before the NFL, both Namath and Johnny dominated in college. Johnny was the first Heisman freshmen ever. Yet, he has no reason to be cocky, but Namath does, because you believed Namath would be great and you don't think Johnny will be? That seems a little arbitrary, but okay. To say Johnny has no reason to be cocky is ridiculous. If Johnny has no reason to be cocky, neither did Namath. Hence, my double standard comment. Also, you says Johnny is focused on the wrong things? Are you talking about his partying lifestyle? Guess who is the person in this snippet? "His first few years in New York were more notable for his antics than his play. Blank quickly became a fixture in New York's nightlife partying until the wee hours with Johnnie Walker Red and filtered cigarettes. His dalliances with numerous women were the talk of the town. He grew a Fu Manchu mustache, invested in a Manhattan club called Bachelors III and claimed that he'd "rather go to Vietnam than get married." Although his behavior may not have been so different than that of his peers, Namath was as unafraid in the public eye as he had been on the field which led to greater press coverage of his lifestyle." Does that sound familiar? Unafraid of the press coverage? Notable for his antics? Like I said, you're misremembering. In your younger days, you probably didn't care as much about "antics." But I knew many older folks who absolutely hated Namath when he came into the professional league. Similar to what we're seeing now. You should be the last one to highlight a double standard given the way you contort yourself to support Manziel in every way as if he is flawless. OTOH, you take every opportunity to crap on EJ. Hypocrisy at its height. You should check yourself 1st before trying to point out any double standard by anyone else. Edited September 5, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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