NoSaint Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Dude, physics...that applies to sessile objects, not moving, dynamic live organisms with musculature, etc. As you said, he knows what he's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Barry Sanders was 5 foot 8 and weighed less then JF. By your logic, wouldn't Barry sanders have been injured constantly throughout his carreer? QBs touch the ball on 100% of the offensive plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 QBs touch the ball on 100% of the offensive plays. I understand that Gu, but in comparison Barry Sanders ran with the ball much more then manziel ever will, I'm not sure what the percenteges are, but manziel has a great arm and some folks are under the impression that all he does is run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Barry Sanders was 5 foot 8 and weighed less then JF. By your logic, wouldn't Barry sanders have been injured constantly throughout his carreer? I see, you'll not be answering questions related to QB's who are similar in style of play to Manziel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I see, you'll not be answering questions related to QB's who are similar in style of play to Manziel. There isn't anyone like JF, so no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Goodone Duck. Johnny might have more upstairs than,some bigger QBs that get hurt. Knowing when and how to get out of bounds or slide. Yeah that`s it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Some of the biggest QBs in the league don't survive preseason their rookie years.... Preseason's far from over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I'd take him over EJ. Wouldn't think twice. If he gets hurt, he gets hurt. Ej is 6'4 240 and he got injured and missed time 3 separate instances in one year. I agree that Manziel is a big injury risk. I also think he's going to be a very good QB until he does get injured. I can't say that about Ej at the moment. Hopefully I can in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 There isn't anyone like JF, so no... List specifics as to how and why John Manziel is so unique. Stop throwing vague remarks out without backing them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Goodone Duck. Johnny might have more upstairs than,some bigger QBs that get hurt. Knowing when and how to get out of bounds or slide. Yeah that`s it. very good point Buffaloed, or QB's like Mike Vick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 For Big and small Qbs. Smart and not so game smart. Or -- .Duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 For Big and small Qbs. Smart and not so game smart. Or -- .Duck. Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 EJ had a far better game than JF his first pre-season game last year, going against starters, not backups. And he got injured in his 2nd pre-season game. Color me unimpressed until at least until JF does it against starters next weekend, much less in the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) Huh? Big, less elusive QB's will take more hits than a smaller more elusive QB correct? Smarter QB's will take less hits then dumber QB's correct? Stands to reason QB's on young inexperienced football teams without a good supporting cast might have a higher probablity of injury correct? Stands to reason inexperienced rookies are more likely to sustain injury then veterans correct? Edited August 10, 2014 by Donald Duck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I'd had no idea that players could post on TBD from the field. Johnny? He's that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 That's right Duck. Know any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Big, less elusive QB's will take more hits than a smaller more elusive QB correct? Smarter QB's will take less hits then dumber QB's correct? Manziel is not a smart person or QB. Let's just get that out there. Big, less-elusive QBs who don't know how to read defenses/get rid of the ball in a timely manner will take more hits. That has nothing to do with size or elusiveness. Dumb QBs ... like Vick ... of whom Manziel is nearly a QB-clone ... take a lot of hits. Because they don't know how to read defenses and choose to run instead of learning when to pass the ball. Manziel is small and dumb. Like Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 So, in your opinion, is he better than Skelton? If so, you'd probably have to give up more than Mario in a trade... I trade em EJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) That is one determined, stubborn Duck. JF has been defying people and odds and record books for two full years. No one knows whether he is going to be able to continue this defiance. I think he has a decent chance. If I HAD to bet on it I guess I would say no but it wouldn't be by much. Mike Vick is the closest thing and Mike Vick played 10 years, made it into playoffs and signed $100m contracts. Edited August 10, 2014 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Big, less elusive QB's will take more hits than a smaller more elusive QB correct? Smarter QB's will take less hits then dumber QB's correct? Stands to reason QB's on young inexperienced football teams without a good supporting cast might have a higher probablity of injury correct? Stands to reason inexperienced rookies are more likely to sustain injury then veterans correct? In order: Not necessarily Typically Let's see the evidence. Both Peyton an Brady has season-ending injuries as well-established vets Same answer as the last one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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