GO Bucks

[Willyville Guy]

35 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Agreed. Oklahoma gave up 40 or more points 5 times ( including the last 4 games) and needed overtime to beat Army.  Now, OSU had some strange games too, but they gave up 40 or more only twice.

Imo, on paper these teams look somewhat similar but there is NO WAY that the Sooners play a schedule that comes close to comparing with that of OSU. 

 

I admit that I have often thought that OSU gets favoritism from the media because of their large fanbase. It doesn't seem that way this year. I don't understand the appeal of Oklahoma to the committee, the networks, or the advertisers.

 

The way it looks to me, the playoffs are (or should be) still possible for OSU but not unless the Tide beats Georgia. I don't see this as a given as so many others do. I am looking for a win but I am not certain it will happen.

 

Good luck to both of us!!!

 

I agree with pretty much all of this - except I think Bama goes to the playoffs even if they lose because at that point they’ll have the best win (LSU) AND the best loss (Georgia). 

 

As as for the Buckeyes, it’s hard for me not to think that on some level the committee is steering the process toward Oklahoma. However, the more likely scenario is that they see two great offenses and two shaky defenses - and they simply prefer the team that lost to Texas to one that got blown out by Purdue.  If that’s the case, similar to last year, I wish they would just say it rather than come up with these tortured rationalizations. 

[YoloinOhio]

15 minutes ago, Willyville Guy said:

 

I agree with pretty much all of this - except I think Bama goes to the playoffs even if they lose because at that point they’ll have the best win (LSU) AND the best loss (Georgia). 

 

As as for the Buckeyes, it’s hard for me not to think that on some level the committee is steering the process toward Oklahoma. However, the more likely scenario is that they see two great offenses and two shaky defenses - and they simply prefer the team that lost to Texas to one that got blown out by Purdue.  If that’s the case, similar to last year, I wish they would just say it rather than come up with these tortured rationalizations. 

This is definitely it and I’m at peace with that.They didn’t really rebound well after the loss either, until last week, which i think is another factor. Dropping northwestern and keeping Texas at 9 is another way they are setting it up for Oklahoma to have the better resume. This time last week I would have preferred to go to the Rose Bowl. I think I would still be happy with that given this rollercoaster of a season. 

 

That said... Hook ‘em ?

[Willyville Guy]

 

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

That said... Hook ‘em ?

 

 

Hell yeah. I want to see how far this Dwayne Train can go while we have him. 

[row_33]

Cowherd was pushing Michigan as the best team and now is claiming that beating them is not an accomplishment

 

it never ends

[YoloinOhio]

37 minutes ago, row_33 said:

Cowherd was pushing Michigan as the best team and now is claiming that beating them is not an accomplishment

 

it never ends

I think at one point he claimed Harbaugh was a better coach than Saban. He just wants attention. 

[row_33]

This week he is stating that Ohio State has better players and that’s why they won

 

That they are more like LSU or other southern teams, so it isn’t impressive with the better players winning the Big 10

 

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

23 minutes ago, row_33 said:

This week he is stating that Ohio State has better players and that’s why they won

 

That they are more like LSU or other southern teams, so it isn’t impressive with the better players winning the Big 10

 

 

 

I heard that bit. He’s right in some ways, but recruiting is part of the game itself and he discounts the crap weather they play in half the season in the Big 10. Cold, wind, snow, rain influences games 

 

in 2015 osu lost one game by 3 to the eventual big 10 champ in a monsoon and didn’t get in the playoff. Their team was loaded with nfl players and certainly could have won it all but they took crap Sparty who lost to Nebraska and had mid tier talent, all because they squeaked out a weather win. Still burns me. The committee never considers weather games. “Osu couldnt pass the ball that one week, their offense is inconsistent” Meanwhile it’s snowing and 20 mph winds. Send Georgia up here and see how they do. 

Edited November 29, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[row_33]

Media bias is at its worst against Ohio State

 

Mark May was the king 

 

sorry, but blatantly cheering for Michigan doesn’t make a media person holy or righteous, and they always lose The Game

 

[YoloinOhio]

I’m so nervous. I cant believe we have to wait until 8pm. 

[/dev/null]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

I cant believe we have to wait until 8pm. 

I'm a little surprised by today's scheduling with both likely blowout games in prime time, the most likely competitive shootout as the early game, and a rematch of the National Championship squeezed in the middle

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

18 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

I'm a little surprised by today's scheduling with both likely blowout games in prime time, the most likely competitive shootout as the early game, and a rematch of the National Championship squeezed in the middle

 

 

The Big 10 championship has always been played at 8pm for some reason ... i hate night games! I cant sleep after no matter what happens. Too wired. 

[Willyville Guy]

[YoloinOhio]

Horns up!!

TFW when you’re playoff hopes once again lay in the hands of Tim Beck

 

[Bill from NYC]

That non call on Oklahoma for pass interference that just happened was a complete and utter disgrace.

[YoloinOhio]

Texas sucks 

[Bill from NYC]

7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Texas sucks 

I was unimpressed by Oklahoma as well.

[Doc Brown]

Ohio State pry needs a miracle by Pittsburgh to get in at this point.

[Boatdrinks]

I thinks Bucks can get in with a resounding win today. Oklahoma not that great on either side of the ball today, bad non call in the 4th on a critical 3rd down. Some will disagree but I think the committee can be swayed still. 

[YoloinOhio]

41 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Ohio State pry needs a miracle by Pittsburgh to get in at this point.

Even if that occurred, I think they still take Clemson over osu. They would both have bad losses (they are a 4 TD favorite over  Pitt) but conf championships (should osu win tonight) only come in as tiebreakers when there is an actual tie, and nothing suggests to me that the committee sees those two teams as comparable. The committee does not think osu is a playoff worthy team but everything they have said and done so far. Is what it is. I hope for a big 10 title and Rose Bowl berth.

Edited December 1, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[Doc Brown]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Even if that occurred, I think they still take Clemson over osu. 

Nah.  They'd lose to a five loss team in Pittsburgh and they had an easier schedule than OSU.  They only have two wins against ranked opponents (Syracuse and Texas A&M).  It's hard to put the ACC runner up in front of the Big 10 champion.

[/dev/null]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Even if that occurred, I think they still take Clemson over osu. 

agreed

 

Alabama and Clemson are locks regardless what happens today

Notre Dame is in too

 

Today is about that final piece of the puzzle

 

Georgia's fate is in their own hands.  Win and they're in. 

If Georgia loses, Ohio State needs to absolutely humiliate Northwestern in Prime Time to jump Oklahoma

[YoloinOhio]

4 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

agreed

 

Alabama and Clemson are locks regardless what happens today

Notre Dame is in too

 

Today is about that final piece of the puzzle

 

Georgia's fate is in their own hands.  Win and they're in. 

If Georgia loses, Ohio State needs to absolutely humiliate Northwestern in Prime Time to jump Oklahoma

Even then (though I do not expect it to be a blowout) if that happens... would it be enough? Committee dropped northwestern two spots after a win last week. They don’t think much of them. Yet Texas stayed at 9. 

[/dev/null]

18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Even then (though I do not expect it to be a blowout) if that happens... would it be enough? Committee dropped northwestern two spots after a win last week. They don’t think much of them. Yet Texas stayed at 9. 

 

A blowout still won't be enough.  Ohio St would have to totally dominate Northwestern the way Alabama handled their early season cupcakes

[Doc Brown]

28 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

agreed

 

Alabama and Clemson are locks regardless what happens today

Notre Dame is in too

 

Today is about that final piece of the puzzle

 

Georgia's fate is in their own hands.  Win and they're in. 

If Georgia loses, Ohio State needs to absolutely humiliate Northwestern in Prime Time to jump Oklahoma

Here's 538's take if Clemson loses and Alabama, OSU, and Oklahoma wins.

 

Alabama, Ohio State and Oklahoma win; Clemson loses.

Chances of happening: 2 percent
Likely playoff field: Alabama (>99 percent), Ohio State (94), Notre Dame (93), Oklahoma (92)
Others: Clemson (11 percent)

According to our model, this result would also benefit the selection committee. If Clemson were to lose the ACC title game to Pitt when favored by more than three touchdowns, the Tigers would suddenly be a Tier 2 team battling with a couple of fellow candidates (the Buckeyes and Sooners) who would each boast conference championships in this scenario.

[/dev/null]

13 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Here's 538's take if Clemson loses and Alabama, OSU, and Oklahoma wins.

 

Alabama, Ohio State and Oklahoma win; Clemson loses.

Chances of happening: 2 percent
Likely playoff field: Alabama (>99 percent), Ohio State (94), Notre Dame (93), Oklahoma (92)
Others: Clemson (11 percent)

According to our model, this result would also benefit the selection committee. If Clemson were to lose the ACC title game to Pitt when favored by more than three touchdowns, the Tigers would suddenly be a Tier 2 team battling with a couple of fellow candidates (the Buckeyes and Sooners) who would each boast conference championships in this scenario.

 

538, you mean the same people who said there was a 70% chance of Hiliary Clinton being elected President?

 

PPP rant aside, their justification for Clemson being dropped is that Oklahoma and Ohio St would boast better resumes as Conference champs.  The selection committee has already established the precedent that Conference Championships are not a requirement in 2016 by selecting Ohio St over Penn St and in 2017 by selecting Alabama over Ohio St

 

 

*addendum, just as soon as I hit OK on the last post, Georgia just went up 21-7.  If this continues, Georgia will make this argument irrelevant

 

[Doc Brown]

14 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

 

538, you mean the same people who said there was a 70% chance of Hiliary Clinton being elected President?

 

PPP rant aside, their justification for Clemson being dropped is that Oklahoma and Ohio St would boast better resumes as Conference champs.  The selection committee has already established the precedent that Conference Championships are not a requirement in 2016 by selecting Ohio St over Penn St and in 2017 by selecting Alabama over Ohio St

Meaning there was a 30% chance of Trump winning.  I think the committee is hoping Alabama and Pittsburgh wins because it makes their job easy as the playoff would be:

 

1.)  Alabama

2.)  Notre Dame

3.)  Oklahoma

4.)  Ohio State

 

Here's what ESPN and Sporting News says -

 

4. What happens if Clemson loses?

It could open the door for both the Big 12 and Big Ten champions, and Clemson's strength of schedule would come under the microscope. Clemson would still have two wins over ranked opponents -- No. 19 Texas A&M and No. 20 Syracuse -- but it would have lost to an unranked, five-loss Pitt team. That's comparable to Ohio State's loss to Purdue (6-6), the difference being that the Buckeyes would have a better win (against Michigan) and a conference title. Oklahoma would also have better wins (against West Virginia and Texas) and a conference title.

Playoff Predictor says: Clemson is in trouble. Let's say all the favorites win except Clemson: Alabama and Notre Dame would be locks, and the Playoff Predictor would put Ohio State (84 percent) and Oklahoma (79 percent) significantly ahead of Clemson (29 percent). The Tigers' weaker strength of schedule would come back to haunt them in this case. -- Walder

HD's prediction: 1. Alabama, 2. Notre Dame, 3. Oklahoma, 4. Ohio State

 

Here's what Sporting News says

 

Scenario 3: Clemson loses  

1. Alabama (13-0)  
2. Notre Dame (12-0)  
3/4. Oklahoma (12-1), Ohio State (12-1), Clemson (12-1)  

What happens: The Tigers, who are heavy favorites against Pitt in the ACC championship game, lose in spectacular fashion. Ohio State and Oklahoma win.  

Who gets left out? Clemson will get left out, and the committee can pump up the value of the conference championship game. Alabama-Ohio State and Notre Dame-Oklahoma will draw big ratings, too.  

Reception: Don't be surprised if that increases the angst between ACC fans and Notre Dame, given the Irish do not have to play in a conference championship game and have an annual five-game arrangement with the conference.  

 

Edited December 1, 2018 by Doc Brown

[H2o]

Haskins is special

[njbuff]

Haskins might be playing his way into being the first QB drafted in 2019.

Edited December 2, 2018 by njbuff

[H2o]

Herbstreit just said he thinks Georgia will jump ND to #3 and the top 4 will be Bama, Clemson, UGA, and ND. He said Ohio St. and OU will both be left out. Heads would explode across the land. 

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, H2o said:

Herbstreit just said he thinks Georgia will jump ND to #3 and the top 4 will be Bama, Clemson, UGA, and ND. He said Ohio St. and OU will both be left out. Heads would explode across the land. 

He’s been on that narrative all week. They want drama.

[H2o]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He’s been on that narrative all week. They want drama.

If that happens then the selection committee loses all credibility. It has to be OU or Ohio St. 

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, H2o said:

If that happens then the selection committee loses all credibility. It has to be OU or Ohio St. 

I don’t think they will, he’s not on the committee he just drives the discussion for espn. Last year he kept saying they were going to take osu over Bama Because of schedule. Wrong. 

[Doc Brown]

They put a guy against a girl in a halftime Dr. Pepper throwing competition?  Of course he's going to win.

Would love to see an Ohio State vs. Oklahoma play in game.  Can't they change the rules just this once?

[YoloinOhio]

13 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

They put a guy against a girl in a halftime Dr. Pepper throwing competition?  Of course he's going to win.

Would love to see an Ohio State vs. Oklahoma play in game.  Can't they change the rules just this once?

Do you hate defense? 

[Kirby Jackson]

59 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

They put a guy against a girl in a halftime Dr. Pepper throwing competition?  Of course he's going to win.

Would love to see an Ohio State vs. Oklahoma play in game.  Can't they change the rules just this once?

A guy actually lost to the girl last year. He didn’t do so well on Twitter after.

[Doc Brown]

9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

A guy actually lost to the girl last year. He didn’t do so well on Twitter after.

Peterman can't catch a break.

[YoloinOhio]

Hey Urban, if at first you don’t succeed with the jet sweep, try it NINE THOUSAND more times. 

[YoloinOhio]

This is the most stupid team in the country.  But I love them. Stupid champions. 

 

 

[RedandBlue]

44 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Hey Urban, if at first you don’t succeed with the jet sweep, try it NINE THOUSAND more times. 

Seriously, I was getting pretty ticked often in that one. Haskins is carving them up, stop running the damn ball. That conservative crap in a game where you need to destroy the other team, not wise. Regardless, OH.

 

Who do you have Haskins or Murray? I think it’s going to be ridiculously close.

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, RedandBlue said:

Seriously, I was getting pretty ticked often in that one. Haskins is carving them up, stop running the damn ball. That conservative crap in a game where you need to destroy the other team, not wise. Regardless, OH.

 

Who do you have Haskins or Murray? I think it’s going to be ridiculously close.

It will probably be Murray. That’s ok. He’s really good too. Could still be Tua.. 10% of voters handed in their ballots before championship weekend... what?!!

 

haskins should win simply for having to play with this stupid defense all year!!!