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Bill O'Reilly calls Las Vegas mass shooting the 'price of freedom'

 

59 dead and hundreds more injured in the rain of bullets or trampled in the panicked rush for cover late Sunday.

 

Is 59 innocent dead people really a price for freedom?

 

Mothers, fathers, sons and daughters.

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1. Not

 

2. tell me again how well that's working in Europe.

1) Yes, there is a labor shortage in several industries

 

2) The non-Fox news version of Europe is fine

Why Did The Las Vegas Shooter Target A Country Music Festival?

 

It was not a random choice.

 

 

 

 

Wow, talk about wild speculation!

 

you mean like CBS and CNN personnel saying c/w deserved this?

Oh please. It was one person and she was fired.

 

Pretty stupid, too. How many people don't have Liberal and Conservative friends and relatives?

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1) Yes, there is a labor shortage in several industries

 

2) The non-Fox news version of Europe is fine

Wow, talk about wild speculation!

Oh please. It was one person and she was fired.

 

Pretty stupid, too. How many people don't have Liberal and Conservative friends and relatives?

 

A CNN reporter almost make a comment about it being a country/western thing that wasn't as witty as he thought....

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That's exactly what the 2nd amendment protects.

 

Don't like it? Go get it changed.

Not even the Heller case made that determination.

 

We also recognize another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms. Miller said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those “in common use at the time.” 307 U. S., at 179. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of “dangerous and unusual weapons.” See 4 Blackstone 148–149 (1769); 3 B. Wilson, Works of the Honourable James Wilson 79 (1804); J. Dunlap, The New-York Justice 8 (1815); C. Humphreys, A Compendium of the Common Law in Force in Kentucky 482 (1822); 1 W. Russell, A Treatise on Crimes and Indictable Misdemeanors 271–272 (1831); H. Stephen, Summary of the Criminal Law 48 (1840); E. Lewis, An Abridgment of the Criminal Law of the United States 64 (1847); F. Wharton, A Treatise on the Criminal Law of the United States 726 (1852). See also State v. Langford, 10 N. C. 381, 383–384 (1824); O’Neill v. State, 16Ala. 65, 67 (1849); English v. State, 35Tex. 473, 476 (1871); State v. Lanier, 71 N. C. 288, 289 (1874).

It may be objected that if weapons that are most useful in military service—M-16 rifles and the like—may be banned, then the Second Amendment right is completely detached from the prefatory clause. But as we have said, the conception of the militia at the time of the Second Amendment ’s ratification was the body of all citizens capable of military service, who would bring the sorts of lawful weapons that they possessed at home to militia duty. It may well be true today that a militia, to be as effective as militias in the 18th century, would require sophisticated arms that are highly unusual in society at large. Indeed, it may be true that no amount of small arms could be useful against modern-day bombers and tanks. But the fact that modern developments have limited the degree of fit between the prefatory clause and the protected right cannot change our interpretation of the right.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html

Since that time, both the Second and the Fourth Circuits have upheld bans on "assault style" weapons. Last year, the SC declined to grant cert. for the Second Cirtcuit case.

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So you're blasting CNN for something no one from CNN ever said? Keep up the good work.

 

your usual pointless ass-hat behaviour is really crappy on this topic.

I have to sadly agree. People die all the time for freedom... Just as long as it's not in vain.

 

yup, it can be said a bit too soon though....

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I expect no less from a dunce like Gator, but if you would actually open the link, you would see why that statement followed.

 

Why Did The Las Vegas Shooter Target A Country Music Festival?

 

It was not a random choice.

 

 

 

 

 

Support Free Speech ===> Racist

Support Free Exercise of Religion ==> Bigot

Support Due Process ==> Rapist

Support Right to Keep/Bear Arms ==> Murderer

 

Gosh, every time we seek to exercise our rights liberals say we're bad.

 

 

 

keep asking me why people want a gun free country................... when 98% of mass shooting occurred in gun-free zones from 1950-2016.

 

 

 

“We must pass laws we’ve wanted forever that we admit wouldn’t have made a difference” - every Democrat and most journalists.

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Not even the Heller case made that determination.

 

True enough. But notice that 1. The court has changed, and will change again soon and 2. Scalia did not even try to define "dangerous and unusual" weapons.

 

 

 

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SXIVy-8B_bigger.jpgBret BaierVerified account @BretBaier 17h17 hours ago

19 guns found in home w/ explosives & "electronic devices" -16 guns in hotel room -thousands of rounds of ammo -ammonium nitrate in car (used for explosives) -& swat team going to northern NV home. This guy appeared to be planning for a long time

3:34 PM - 2 Oct 2017

 

 

There is no way this guy did all this without someone noticing. People around him are lying.

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So at the time of the second amendment passing, an expert marksman could get off about four rounds a minute. Maybe five. A fully automatic gets off, what, 500? I just saw 540. 9 per second.

 

I'm sure this is what the founding fathers wanted to protect.

 

Seriously? That's been going on for years.

Well in the case of what they should say and don't. Of course. But not so much about maybe thinking something, deciding you shouldn't say it, and then not saying it.
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