What is better, no guns, or more guns?

[ChiGoose]

 

[Tommy Callahan]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Did Now this forget the part where it was two cars in the parking lot shooting at each other. 

 

More bangers

 

Illegal gun possession should be a 5 year min.

 

 

 

 

[ArdmoreRyno]

15 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

 

Again, criminals (esp gang members) don't care about gun laws. They don't care about "universal background checks". They don't care about "magazine limits". They don't care about hurting others. 

 

 

[Tiberius]

Nice 

 

 

[ArdmoreRyno]

17 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Nice 

 

 

 

That makes a TON of sense. Sue an accessory company! That'll stop mass shootings!  

[Joe Ferguson forever]

55 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Again, criminals (esp gang members) don't care about gun laws. They don't care about "universal background checks". They don't care about "magazine limits". They don't care about hurting others. 

 

 

neither do those espousing civil war...but I'm beginning to think it might be a good thing.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

CIVIL RIGHTS UPDATE: 

 

US Prohibition Against 18-to-20-Year-Olds Buying Handguns Tossed.

 

The US government’s prohibition on 18-to-20-year-olds buying handguns violates the Second Amendment and “cannot stand,” a federal judge in Virginia ruled.

 

The right to purchase a handgun falls under right to “keep and bear arms,” and young adults are among “the people” protected by the Second Amendment, Judge Robert E. Payne of the US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia at Richmond said Wednesday.

 

Restricting the right of 18-to-20-year-olds to buy handguns, via an interlocking collection of federal law and regulations, isn’t supported by the nation’s history and tradition, Payne said. The government presented numerous militia laws from around the time of the nation’s founding, but they showed that 16 or 18 was the age of militia service then, he said.

 

The government did not present any evidence supporting “age-based restrictions on the purchase or sale of firearms from the colonial era, Founding, or Early Republic,” Payne said.

 

The earliest age restrictions for buying guns the government pointed to were laws passed in Alabama and Tennessee in 1856, Payne said. But none of the antebellum laws provided a definition of “minor” and “it is unclear to whom exactly they applied,” he said.

 

 

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/us-prohibition-against-18-to-20-year-olds-buying-handguns-tossed

 

 

 

Here’s the opinion. Freedom advances, bit by bit.

 

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.524643/gov.uscourts.vaed.524643.47.0_1.pdf

 

 

 

[ChiGoose]

4 hours ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Again, criminals (esp gang members) don't care about gun laws. They don't care about "universal background checks". They don't care about "magazine limits". They don't care about hurting others. 

 

 

If you follow this argument to its natural conclusion: we don’t need any laws at all.

 

Hardly convincing since many of the Jan 6 terrorists stored their weapons just outside of DC with rapid response teams because they DC gun laws were so strict. 

[Orlando Tim]

3 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

If you follow this argument to its natural conclusion: we don’t need any laws at all.

 

Hardly convincing since many of the Jan 6 terrorists stored their weapons just outside of DC with rapid response teams because they DC gun laws were so strict. 

Ad hominem attacks are the last vestige of a lost cause. His point, that is obvious to anyone with about room temperature IQ, is that the people who are willing to kill others will never be dissuaded by a paperwork law. Pointing out that major crimes will never be stopped by minor inconvenience.

[ChiGoose]

52 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Ad hominem attacks are the last vestige of a lost cause. His point, that is obvious to anyone with about room temperature IQ, is that the people who are willing to kill others will never be dissuaded by a paperwork law. Pointing out that major crimes will never be stopped by minor inconvenience.

I think you should look up the definition of ad hominem arguments…

 

In any case, like I said, if enacting laws about crime has no impact on crime, then why do we have any laws about crimes?

[Orlando Tim]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

I think you should look up the definition of ad hominem arguments…

 

In any case, like I said, if enacting laws about crime has no impact on crime, then why do we have any laws about crimes?

Wrong words, I meant reductio ad absurdum, that is embarrassing. Anyways the reason we make laws is that they make our lives better. The reason I am against most new gun laws is two fold- the current ones are poorly enforced and since 99.9% of people don't worry me I would prefer the government focus on dealing with those people that can cause issues. Forcing good people to work harder to benefit government is not a good idea to me. 

[B-Man]

 

 

SALENA ZITO ON the decline of Dick’s Sporting Goods: 

 

They thought they were just ditching the “old white men” demographic when they stopped carrying guns, but gun owners are now a much more diverse group.

 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/salena-zito-there-s-no-es-cap-ing-pol-i-tics-even-in-the-bas-ket-ball-aisle/ar-AA1axZxI

[Roundybout]

Impossibly rare Serbia W

[ChiGoose]

'She went out peacefully' | Boyfriend, child were in bed with woman when she was killed by stray bullet  Bethany Mefford leaves behind three boys, all of which are under the age of 7.

 

“The Harris County Sheriff’s Office said Mefford was sleeping when a stray bullet went through her bedroom wall around 2:30 Wednesday morning.

A neighbor allegedly fired up to 15 times at suspected car burglars in the parking lot of their apartment complex but ended up killing the beloved mother and partner.”

[ChiGoose]

 

[aristocrat]

 

[B-Man]

On 5/11/2023 at 6:49 PM, B-Man said:

 

CIVIL RIGHTS UPDATE: 

US Prohibition Against 18-to-20-Year-Olds Buying Handguns Tossed.

 

The US government’s prohibition on 18-to-20-year-olds buying handguns violates the Second Amendment and “cannot stand,” a federal judge in Virginia ruled.

 

The right to purchase a handgun falls under right to “keep and bear arms,” and young adults are among “the people” protected by the Second Amendment, Judge Robert E. Payne of the US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia at Richmond said Wednesday.

 

Restricting the right of 18-to-20-year-olds to buy handguns, via an interlocking collection of federal law and regulations, isn’t supported by the nation’s history and tradition, Payne said. The government presented numerous militia laws from around the time of the nation’s founding, but they showed that 16 or 18 was the age of militia service then, he said.

 

The government did not present any evidence supporting “age-based restrictions on the purchase or sale of firearms from the colonial era, Founding, or Early Republic,” Payne said.

 

The earliest age restrictions for buying guns the government pointed to were laws passed in Alabama and Tennessee in 1856, Payne said. But none of the antebellum laws provided a definition of “minor” and “it is unclear to whom exactly they applied,” he said.

 

 

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/us-prohibition-against-18-to-20-year-olds-buying-handguns-tossed

 

 

 

Here’s the opinion. Freedom advances, bit by bit.

 

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.524643/gov.uscourts.vaed.524643.47.0_1.pdf

 

 

 

 

More on the above.

 

 

 

One indefensible federal gun law just got struck down

It’s unlikely this ruling will be overturned.

 

For years, law-abiding adults have been prohibited from buying handguns in the United States. Not all law-abiding adults, mind you, but an awful lot of them. In particular, those adults under the age of 21.

 

They could buy shotguns and rifles, including the notorious AR-15, but they couldn’t buy a handgun of any kind. Now, a court has found that this federal prohibition is unconstitutional. Reuters reports:

 

A federal judge in Virginia has struck down federal laws that block the sale of handguns to buyers under the age of 21, ruling they violate constitutional rights to possess firearms.

 

The ruling, which the Justice Department is expected to challenge, will not take effect until judge Robert Payne, of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, who was appointed by President George H.W. Bush, issues his final order in the coming weeks.

 

The ruling would not affect the 19 states that have their own laws barring handgun sales to anyone younger than 21.

 

Payne’s ruling follows on the Supreme Court’s significant expansion of gun rights in the past year, which the judge frequently referenced in his ruling issued on Wednesday.

 

‘Because the statutes and regulations in question are not consistent with our nation’s history and tradition, they, therefore, cannot stand,’ Payne wrote in his decision.

 

https://www.based-politics.com/2023/05/12/one-indefensible-federal-gun-law-just-got-struck-down/

[Big Blitz]

Just a Senator threatening the SCOTUS

 

 

 

Did he just call for an insurrection??

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

On 5/12/2023 at 9:40 AM, B-Man said:

the decline of Dick’s Sporting Goods

From the article you didn’t read. You call this decline?

 

Beginning in 2024, Dick’s will open 20 massive 100,000-square-foot facilities called “Dick’s House of Sport” that will feature batting cages, a 32-foot climbing wall, a virtual golf experience that allows visitors to experience courses around the world and, of course, a “wellness center.” The stores will also feature an outdoor field and running track that will also double as an outdoor movie theater in the summer and a skating rink in the winter.

 

DIck’s is doing just fine without you gun nuts. 
 

Cry harder Bonnie

 

[ChiGoose]