T master Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Maybe read this thread of people blaming literally anything other than the prevalence of guns. I think the current reason for gun violence according to PPP is trans people. It’ll change with the next mass shooting later this week. You think just maybe it could be the over use of drugs for every single thing that in some of these types of situations could have especially seeing as this person was transitioning from one sex physically & mentally to another & that the drugs used to make this transition so could have had something to do with it ? It just strikes me as very funny some 100 years ago when every house had guns to literally protect them selves & to get their food in some respects there most likely was a lot less people just walking around killing other people for literally no good reason . That then add to it the fact that if you did kill some one & were caught you were made a example of taken to the village square & hung by the neck for all to see or in some cases shot by a firing line but today that's cruel & unusual punishment just simply barbaric !! Today the worst is that some are given 3 hot meals every day for the rest of their, life a warm bed to sleep in with clean sheets, a gym, a library, and in some situations conjugal visits . And we the people get to pay for all of it YAY ... That's really some kind of punishment for murdering another human being . I hope this person & any other that does this type of thing rots in the darkest hottest corner of hell for all eternity ... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: What a joke. It's staring us all in the face, and idiots are still like, muh guns! In the comedy realm pretty funny but in reality totally asinine to say the least plus isn't it written (which i will have to look it up) that the American military is not to be used against it's own citizens for which it is to protect ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: So folks in those countries really really want to commit murder with guns , they’re just not “ allowed “ to by the super duper intelligent deep thinkers ? Mmmmmmkay! Is it your contention that Americans are inherently inferior and therefore more likely to have a mental illness that leads them to violence? Edited March 28, 2023 by ChiGoose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 I’m stunned 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Is it your contention that Americans are inherently inferior and therefore more likely to have a mental illness that leads them to violence? Inherently, no. This is due to a cultural and societal decay that has occurred over the last several decades. Only a smaller portion of such violence is due to mental illness. These tend to be the high profile variety - such as school shootings. Most of it , though is just just the acceptance and celebration of violence by certain groups. Much of that can be linked to poor parenting , dumbing down of educational standard , learned hatred of Country etc etc. It’s more cultural than inherent from birth. More nurture than nature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Wowzer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Totally normal... The HUMANS in the USA are just SO different than the rest of the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 🎯 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrW Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Inherently, no. This is due to a cultural and societal decay that has occurred over the last several decades. Only a smaller portion of such violence is due to mental illness. These tend to be the high profile variety - such as school shootings. Most of it , though is just just the acceptance and celebration of violence by certain groups. Much of that can be linked to poor parenting , dumbing down of educational standard , learned hatred of Country etc etc. It’s more cultural than inherent from birth. More nurture than nature. This seems a fair evaluation. However, one question remains: How did all the other countries shown on the graph avoid this "cultural and societal decay"? Or, at least, how did they avoid the dire consequences we experience in the US? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) Governor Katie Hobbs Press Secretary (Josselyn Berry) with quite the tweet… Edited March 29, 2023 by SCBills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) I think mass shootings have become the new “trend”, if you will, for evil and mentally unwell people the same way serial killing was back in the 60s through into the 90s. Even if guns aren’t the root cause of these killings, that doesn’t mean gun control (not a gun ban before anyone freaks out) can’t be part of the solution. Some major changes/advancements need to be made in order to curb the shootings just like how major changes to criminology and forensics made serial killing MUCH more difficult. Edited March 29, 2023 by gobills404 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 3 hours ago, BillStime said: 🎯 The Supreme Court first recognized the individual right to own firearms in 2008. The gun lobby has completely perverted the narrative and created a myth around guns. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: The Supreme Court first recognized the individual right to own firearms in 2008. The gun lobby has completely perverted the narrative and created a myth around guns. Just follow the money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Governor Katie Hobbs Press Secretary (Josselyn Berry) with quite the tweet… Yeah, she should be fired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: The Supreme Court first recognized the individual right to own firearms in 2008. The gun lobby has completely perverted the narrative and created a myth around guns. SCOTUS shouldn’t have had to. We were a sane country once. It was only made possible due to communists that pass communist laws. The only bulwark against said communism is that dam constitution. And smart people. The smart people that understand your rights don’t stop because a few bad people do really bad things. Communism has actually killed 10s of millions. Even tho Stalin, Mao, the Khmer Rouge killed millions we don’t blame the guns. These people just told you to stay in a mask 6 feet apart for over 2 years and many with “Govern Me Daddy” fear still are. Imagine what happens when they completely unravel the Constitution. I mean they say it’s the goal regularly: Edited March 29, 2023 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: The only bulwark against said communism is that dam constitution. And smart people. The smart people that understand your rights don’t stop because a few bad people do really bad things. Communism has actually killed 10s of millions. Sure. right now there are many less professed communists in the country than Nazi's. Both suck. And a dam blocks sewage from floating downstream. Nothing to do with the Constitution...maybe the constitutional. Edited March 29, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 7 hours ago, T master said: Please explain exactly what gun laws will keep the guns from the bad guys ? I'll wait . Especially seeing as they have literally no respect for the law it self in any form or who makes them or enforces them ? Again i'll wait thank you . Impossible to tell as it's impossible to measure what laws on the books now have kept guns from "the bad guys." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 25 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: SCOTUS shouldn’t have had to. We were a sane country once. It was only made possible due to communists that pass communist laws. The only bulwark against said communism is that dam constitution. And smart people. The smart people that understand your rights don’t stop because a few bad people do really bad things. Communism has actually killed 10s of millions. Even tho Stalin, Mao, the Khmer Rouge killed millions we don’t blame the guns. These people just told you to stay in a mask 6 feet apart for over 2 years and many with “Govern Me Daddy” fear still are. Imagine what happens when they completely unravel the Constitution. I mean they say it’s the goal regularly: Now, if I were truly an Originalist who cared what the Founders intended, I might ponder over those words “A well regulated militia” and what they meant at the time they were written. Or, I could do what “Originalists” always do and pick the outcome that I want politically and then come up with a fig leaf rationale for it. 7 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Impossible to tell as it's impossible to measure what laws on the books now have kept guns from "the bad guys." It’s funny how they want laws about which bathrooms people can use or books they can read, but the second someone mention laws that might stop kids from being killed it’s suddenly “criminals don’t follow laws so what’s even the point of laws????” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, ChiGoose said: *looks at data* ”Yep. Must be the libs / lack of guns / doors / trans people / lack of church / single parent families / gays / unarmed teachers. That makes sense to me.” they gotta have a villain to rail against Chi...here it's just you , me, Tibs, Billsy and a few others. But we're up to it. They got nothin but fox talking points. And Fox is gonna lose gazillions for lying thru their teeth or their a$$holes. Meanwhile, Murdoch and trump aren't the best of friends. At least for now. If the cash flow changes, so will they both...Integrity! Edited March 29, 2023 by redtail hawk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: It’s funny how they want laws about which bathrooms people can use or books they can read, but the second someone mention laws that might stop kids from being killed it’s suddenly “criminals don’t follow laws so what’s even the point of laws????” I don't think he said that as you're comparing apples to oranges. Banning books or the implementation of bathroom laws doesn't threaten the lives of me or my family. If they suddenly made guns illegal I'm still keeping my shotgun because he's right in that if a "bad guy" is motivated enough they'll find a way to get a gun (legally or illegally). It should be really fricken difficult to get and own a gun legally though imo. Edited March 29, 2023 by Doc Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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