meazza Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 http://www.washingto...pm_opinions_pop Who lost Iraq? "But how did Maliki come to be prime minister of Iraq? He was the product of a series of momentous decisions made by the Bush administration. Having invaded Iraq with a small force — what the expertTom Ricks called "the worst war plan in American history" — the administration needed to find local allies. It quickly decided to destroy Iraq's Sunni ruling establishment and empower the hard-line Shiite religious parties that had opposed Saddam Hussein. This meant that a structure of Sunni power that had been in the area for centuries collapsed. These moves — to disband the army, dismantle the bureaucracy and purge Sunnis in general — might have been more consequential than the invasion itself." Neocons got us chained to this corpse in Iraq, wouldn't you say that is bad? Hillary is a neocon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Yikes #bringbackourcontractors ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Hillary is a neocon? Oh! You are non-partisan, not a Conservative and you want me to blame the Iraq war on Hillary Clinton because she didn't vote against giving Bush the authorization to attack? You are a joke. Stop pretending. It's obvious you are cowardly right wing nut job who isn't smart enough to take a stand and argue anything so you sit back and toss insults like a little B word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Oh! You are non-partisan, not a Conservative and you want me to blame the Iraq war on Hillary Clinton because she didn't vote against giving Bush the authorization to attack? You are a joke. Stop pretending. It's obvious you are cowardly right wing nut job who isn't smart enough to take a stand and argue anything so you sit back and toss insults like a little B word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Cute, but while I admit I'm partisan, you don't, and while I can articulate a point, you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Cute, but while I admit I'm partisan, you don't, and while I can articulate a point, you can't. Partisan? I voted Liberal the last election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Fall Of Baghdad Would Make Current Gas Prices 'Look Like Bargain'... STEPHEN L. CARTER: What Obama Didn’t Say About Iraq. “In particular, the president never said anything approaching this: ‘We will under no circumstances permit the terrorists to take control of Iraq.’ Barack Obama is a man who knows how to use words. It’s possible, then, that this omission was intended to prepare us for the worst.” JAMES TARANTO: Obama Keeps a Promise: What he said in 2007 about withdrawing from Iraq. As this columnist noted in a 2007 op-ed in The Wall Street Journal, then-Sens. Obama and Kerry were so eager for America to pull out of Iraq that they dismissed the possibility of catastrophic results. Obama was asked by an AP reporter if preventing genocide was a good enough reason to keep U.S. forces in Iraq. As he often does, he took refuge in a false dilemma: “Well, look, if that’s the criteria by which we are making decisions on the deployment of U.S. forces, then by that argument you would have 300,000 troops in the Congo right now–where millions have been slaughtered as a consequence of ethnic strife–which we haven’t done. We would be deploying unilaterally and occupying the Sudan, which we haven’t done. Those of us who care about Darfur don’t think it would be a good idea.” True, it is impractical to intervene everywhere. It does not follow that it is wrong to intervene anywhere, much less that it is right to end heedlessly an intervention already undertaken. Today the president acknowledged that the Islamic State’s advance “poses a danger to Iraq and its people, and given the nature of these terrorists, it could pose a threat eventually to American interests as well.” In 2007 he promised to withdraw regardless of the danger to Iraq and its people. He kept that promise. As for Kerry, he invoked Vietnam, as he often does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 or this: . Baghdad barrack. I love it. Frigging awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Partisan? I voted Liberal the last election. Yeah, but up there, isn't that like voting for a kitten over a puppy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Yeah, but up there, isn't that like voting for a kitten over a puppy? I was wondering if he would ever figure out i'm a canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 (edited) you want me to blame the Iraq war on Hillary Clinton because she didn't vote against giving Bush the authorization to attack? No, we expect you to blame Hillary because she voted to go to war and was a vocal proponent of the war. She is, undeniably and without any question, as responsible for that war as Bush. Edited June 14, 2014 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) Very bad scenario laid out by Iraqi commander. If fighting gets to Baghdad, Sunni's will defect from the army leaving only the Shiite's to fight ISIS. http://youtu.be/F7HT1S1OrG8 Edited June 15, 2014 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Very bad scenario laid out by Iraqi commander. If fighting gets to Baghdad, Sunni's will defect from the army leaving only the Shiite's to fight ISIS. http://youtu.be/F7HT1S1OrG8 You are amazingly up to speed and current on this topic. Phenomenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 (Rebels lay waiting and watched us go.) Rebels’ Fast Strike in Iraq Was Years in the Making New York Times, by Tim Arango, Kareem Fahim, Ben Hubbard Original Article Blair: Don´t blame me for meltdown in Iraq:Astonishing ´essay´ by ex-PM: he says Obama quit too soon... Daily Mail (U.K.), by Staff Original Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I was wondering if he would ever figure out i'm a canadian. he never lets things like facts or reality color his opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) ISIS doesn't have to officially make it to the Baghdad for the fighting to start there, as there are already several Sunni terrorists already operating there. "The United States said Sunday it was evacuating some staff from its embassy and beefing up security as deadly explosions rocked the Iraqi capital ...." http://www.usatoday....gency/10545803/ Edited June 16, 2014 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) Forward! Al Qaida is on the run! WTF Barack. WTF. Edited June 16, 2014 by Nanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 he never lets things like facts or reality color his opinions. The fact that you are a complete moron has not escaped me and very much colors my opinion of you as a total dumb ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 The fact that you are a complete moron has not escaped me and very much colors my opinion of you as a total dumb ass Winston Churchill once said (paraphrased) 'a 20 year-old who isn't liberal has no heart, but a 40 year-old who isn't conservative has no head'. you, sir, are no conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Winston Churchill once said (paraphrased) 'a 20 year-old who isn't liberal has no heart, but a 40 year-old who isn't conservative has no head'. you, sir, are no conservative. Spoken like a gentleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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