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are you saying that there is a gray course of action towards vacuum filling that has proven efficacy? what exactly is that course. i can only recall failed attempts regardless of approach.

He has no response just spouts out some BS. "Gray" is intervention, it's what we did in Syria (support to rebels), and it was a huge disaster. Lybia too.

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At least the administration is consistent on a single aspect of foreign policy. They are perfectly content to abandon American citizens who are doing their jobs for the government to be over run by terrorist mobs. At least we know where the administration stands on one single issue

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At least the administration is consistent on a single aspect of foreign policy. They are perfectly content to abandon American citizens who are doing their jobs for the government to be over run by terrorist mobs. At least we know where the administration stands on one single issue

 

Unless you're a deserter. Then he's got your back provided he can give a bunch of really bad guys back to the enemy.

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Clearly Syria was not a national security risk. yet there we are providing weapons, training and support to "rebels". Would have been over long time ago had foreign powers, including US, stayed out. Now death toll approaching 200,000, millions of refugees, Al Qaeda using as springboard to invade Iraq ....

 

You do realize Russia has been the one pulling the strings in Syria, correct? More specifically the amount of money the Russians make selling arms to Assad and propping him up. The US isn't the only one in the region playing both sides and any analysis that omits that fact is pretty superficial, wouldn't you agree?

 

Not only that, just think of the technology since 9/11. Drones to be specific. Imagine the damage that could be done on American soil if the insane radicals bulldozing Iraq eventually got a hold of this technology and eventually used it to produce a mass attack on America.

 

What do you mean "if"? It's not a matter of if but when. Drone technology is not and will not ever be exclusively American. Might take a decade or two but it won't be long before a lot of countries have a well armed, and cheaply maintained, drone capabilities. Hell, Joe Schmoe could buy a drone off the internet today and probably do something pretty destructive with it if he were so inclined.

 

Every time there is an advancement in weaponry the other side (whoever that may be at any given time) eventually gets their own versions -- most built and paid for by our own military industrial complex -- which are turned against the inventors. It'll happen with drones too.

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You do realize Russia has been the one pulling the strings in Syria, correct? More specifically the amount of money the Russians make selling arms to Assad and propping him up. The US isn't the only one in the region playing both sides and any analysis that omits that fact is pretty superficial, wouldn't you agree?

 

 

 

What do you mean "if"? It's not a matter of if but when. Drone technology is not and will not ever be exclusively American. Might take a decade or two but it won't be long before a lot of countries have a well armed, and cheaply maintained, drone capabilities. Hell, Joe Schmoe could buy a drone off the internet today and probably do something pretty destructive with it if he were so inclined.

 

Every time there is an advancement in weaponry the other side (whoever that may be at any given time) eventually gets their own versions -- most built and paid for by our own military industrial complex -- which are turned against the inventors. It'll happen with drones too.

 

Yeah but when it's Russia it's ok because Neocons bad.

 

And by the time they have drones, we'll transphasic torpedoes.

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Yeah but when it's Russia it's ok because Neocons bad.

 

And by the time they have drones, we'll transphasic torpedoes.

There's been an arms agreement between the 2 governments for years, just like US and Israelis. So by your logic, when a Palestinean uprising is brutally crushed by Israelis, the appropriate Russian response is to send arms, training, and equipment to Palestineans?

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There's been an arms between the 2 governments for years, just like US and Israelis. So by your logic, when a Palestinean uprising is brutally crushed by Israelis, the appropriate Russian response is to send arms, training, and equipment to Palestineans?

 

Based on your search skills from yesterday, it doesn't surprise me that a !@#$ tard like you misses the point.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/fareed-zakaria-who-lost-iraq-the-iraqis-did-with-an-assist-from-george-w-bush/2014/06/12/35c5a418-f25c-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html?tid=pm_opinions_pop

 

Who lost Iraq?

 

 

"But how did Maliki come to be prime minister of Iraq? He was the product of a series of momentous decisions made by the Bush administration. Having invaded Iraq with a small force — what the expertTom Ricks called “the worst war plan in American history” — the administration needed to find local allies. It quickly decided to destroy Iraq’s Sunni ruling establishment and empower the hard-line Shiite religious parties that had opposed Saddam Hussein. This meant that a structure of Sunni power that had been in the area for centuries collapsed. These moves — to disband the army, dismantle the bureaucracy and purge Sunnis in general — might have been more consequential than the invasion itself."

 

 

 

 

Yeah but when it's Russia it's ok because Neocons bad.

 

And by the time they have drones, we'll transphasic torpedoes.

Neocons got us chained to this corpse in Iraq, wouldn't you say that is bad? Edited by gatorman
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