mrags Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Do you honestly believe that another NFL team is going to trade for Stevie Johnson and his almost 9 million dollar a year contract? ok. This is where I'm completely confused. Can someone just post his real actual cap hit every year because in this thread alone we've seen his salary range from 7 million to almost 9 million. And it's only a few pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) ok. This is where I'm completely confused. Can someone just post his real actual cap hit every year because in this thread alone we've seen his salary range from 7 million to almost 9 million. And it's only a few pages. His average salary for the life of the deal is 7.25m (5 years, 36.25m) Once you amortize the signing bonus dollars, and the naturally upward direction of salaries he will have cap hits in the mid/upper 8s from here out. This year he will take home 6.8m and his cap hit will have 1.7m tacked on from his signing bonus making the hit 8.5 and actual pay 6.8. Edited February 16, 2014 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 His average salary for the life of the deal is 7.25m (5 years, 36.25m) Once you amortize the signing bonus dollars, and the naturally upward direction of salaries he will have cap hits in the mid/upper 8s from here out. This year he will take home 6.8m and his cap hit will have 1.7m tacked on from his signing bonus making the hit 8.5 and actual pay 6.8. thank you for this. And I don't see how anyone can be upset with his pay. He's making about what's commensurate with his abilities. Sure he's above a few guys on this list, he's also below a few he shouldn't be. After factoring in 1 year deals (like Anquan Boldin) and rookie deals (like Julio Jones) he's probably right around where he should be. http://overthecap.com/top-player-salaries.php?Position=WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 thank you for this. And I don't see how anyone can be upset with his pay. He's making about what's commensurate with his abilities. Sure he's above a few guys on this list, he's also below a few he shouldn't be. After factoring in 1 year deals (like Anquan Boldin) and rookie deals (like Julio Jones) he's probably right around where he should be. http://overthecap.com/top-player-salaries.php?Position=WR The cap shooting up as fast as it has the last decade has given some fans a hard time wrapping their heads around good players being paid market value being on par with elite pay in 2005. Vet starting receivers get paid well even when not game changers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The cap shooting up as fast as it has the last decade has given some fans a hard time wrapping their heads around good players being paid market value being on par with elite pay in 2005. Vet starting receivers get paid well even when not game changers. yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The cap shooting up as fast as it has the last decade has given some fans a hard time wrapping their heads around good players being paid market value being on par with elite pay in 2005. Vet starting receivers get paid well even when not game changers. A-freakin-men. The top WRs are now getting 12 million per year. The WR franchise tag number is north of 11 million. Stevie making 8 million seems right in line with abilities as a top 20 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The cap shooting up as fast as it has the last decade has given some fans a hard time wrapping their heads around good players being paid market value being on par with elite pay in 2005. Vet starting receivers get paid well even when not game changers. Agreed His salary is a non issue. The question on him is, can he get better? Will he be more productive with improvement at QB and will his durability return or are we seeing a decline? Biggest question for me is, will he build chemistry with EJ? Didn't see it last year... I felt I saw numerous times they just didn't seem to be on the same page and Woods as a rookie had similar production and at times appeared to be more in synch with the rook signal caller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Biggest question for me is, will he build chemistry with EJ? Didn't see it last year... I felt I saw numerous times they just didn't seem to be on the same page and Woods as a rookie had similar production and at times appeared to be more in synch with the rook signal caller. Excellent observation. SJ and Fitz were second teamers together before they became starters and developed quite a chemistry. EJ was a rookie who lost time due to several injuries. They had little time to get used to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Excellent observation. SJ and Fitz were second teamers together before they became starters and developed quite a chemistry. EJ was a rookie who lost time due to several injuries. They had little time to get used to each other. Stevie missed the section of camp with ej healthy and some regular season time too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickedface Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 nope! and i'll post this on the next 20 threads that come up with the same thing. hasn't this topic been beaten into the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRQ_BillsFan Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) If we cut or traded every player on the team that either didn't Play up to their contract Or Play up to their potential We would have about 5 players left on the team, sounds good! "Who's with me?!" Edited February 16, 2014 by SRQ_BillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdk Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Yes, Stevie Johnson had a down season for him. But how would you like to be the Bill's targeted receiver playing catch with last year's turnstile of 'not ready for prime time' QB's? While Stevie may not be a true #1 receiver (hope the FO will stop drafting TJ Graham, et al), he IS more than capable of being part of a successful team. This board is quick to get RID of talented, outspoken players (Marshawn, Donte, etc.). A likely 4th round draft pick for SJ doesn't advance the playoff cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Excellent observation. SJ and Fitz were second teamers together before they became starters and developed quite a chemistry. EJ was a rookie who lost time due to several injuries. They had little time to get used to each other. This explains a LOT of issues on offense this season. Injuries by both QBs and WRS had no hope of developing continuity . Again , i say. This is the most important year for this offense. Past season had just too many injury issues to develop a team. Lets hope these guys realize they should all be spending as much time together as soon as they are able. This applies to Stevie too Stevie missed the section of camp with ej healthy and some regular season time too. someone should make a chart about how many times the line up changed from training camp forward. Just a mess really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 His average salary for the life of the deal is 7.25m (5 years, 36.25m) Once you amortize the signing bonus dollars, and the naturally upward direction of salaries he will have cap hits in the mid/upper 8s from here out. This year he will take home 6.8m and his cap hit will have 1.7m tacked on from his signing bonus making the hit 8.5 and actual pay 6.8. Doesn't the cash to the cap philosophy put the entire signing bonus in year one for cap purposes? I thought that wa the benefit and idea behind it so that money wouldn't be tied updated in the contract. Mind you I have no idea if I'm correct it's just what my understanding of the philosophy was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Doesn't the cash to the cap philosophy put the entire signing bonus in year one for cap purposes? I thought that wa the benefit and idea behind it so that money wouldn't be tied updated in the contract. Mind you I have no idea if I'm correct it's just what my understanding of the philosophy was. Nope. All signing bonuses are amortized by nfl policy. We'd have to give him a roster bonus payable essentially immediately in order to actually accomplish that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle flap Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Hmm maybe the haters are getting their wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Stevie Johnson posts on Instagram "good times don't last ..." While sporting a bills uni. Could this be a hint of a release or trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 http://instagram.com/p/kfUs9wzNDU/ To wit, it's a pic of him and David Nelson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Werd, I couldn't tell who that was. Couldn't tell it was an 86. Kinda late tho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle flap Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The day before he tweeted this "Thank You Fans!" photo, so maybe there is something afoot. http://instagram.com/p/kdOoCUzNAE/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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