The Affordable Care Act II - Because Mr. Obama Loves You All

[Hedge]

 

 

[Koko78]

6 hours ago, Hedge said:

 

 

 

Thanks Obama!

 

On the bright side, 30 million people who couldn't afford health insurance still can't afford health insurance!

[Tiberius]

Pandemic? What pandemic? Trump cares about people ha ha ha 

 

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President Trump said Wednesday he will continue trying to toss out all of the Affordable Care Act, even as some in his administration, including Attorney General William P. Barr, have privately argued parts of the law should be preserved amid a pandemic.

“We want to terminate health care under Obamacare,” Trump told reporters Wednesday, the last day for his administration to change its position in a Supreme Court case challenging the law. “Obamacare, we run it really well. . . . But running it great, it’s still lousy health care.”

While the president has said he will preserve some of the Affordable Care Act’s most popular provisions, including guaranteed coverage for preexisting medical conditions, he has not offered a plan to do so, and his administration’s legal position seeks to end all parts of the law, including those provisions.

Democrats, who view the fight over the Affordable Care Act as a winning election issue for them, denounced the president’s decision.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement that “the President’s insistence on doubling down on his senseless and cruel argument in court to destroy the ACA and every last one of its benefits and protections is unconscionable, particularly in the middle of a pandemic.”

Trump’s declaration caps months of debate within his administration about the best course of action, in which the stakes have only become greater now that the nation’s health-care system is struggling to deal with the spread of the coronavirus, which has killed more than 70,000Americans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-obamacare-supreme-court/2020/05/06/4a53ba54-8fe1-11ea-9e23-6914ee410a5f_story.html

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[GG]

In looking up some Wuhan stories, I ran across this gem from the friggin Guardian.  This is your future, ACA

 

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In the UK, the waiting list for hospital treatment could soar to almost 10 million people by Christmas amid a huge backlog caused by coronavirus disrupting services, NHS leaders are warning.

Hospital bosses say that such a massive increase in England is a realistic prospect, given so many people have been unable to have surgery and crucial diagnostic tests in recent months while the NHS’s main priority has been minimising the damage from Covid-19.

The total number of people waiting to undergo a procedure in a hospital in England such as a hernia repair, cataract removal or hip or knee replacement stood at 4.4 million before the pandemic. It then fell to 4.2 million because in March GPs referred fewer patients for care to help hospitals tackle the pandemic and also because some patients were reluctant to risk getting infected by going into hospital.

However, the NHS Confederation estimates that it is likely to reach 9.8 million by the end of the year as a result of staff shortages and hospitals having to cap the number of patients they can treat at any one time because of strict physical distancing rules that reduce the number of beds available.

 

 

[Nanker]

This is what is happening here as well. Many hospitals and Elective Surgery and diagnostic procedure centers are shut down and have been for over three months. 
 

The backlog at those places is tremendous. 
 

I was able to see a knee specialist weeks ago. He ordered a CAT scan and a bone density scan at the local hospital. The center called me and said they’re not doing those tests now and would call me when they reopen. 
 

 

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, Nanker said:

This is what is happening here as well. Many hospitals and Elective Surgery and diagnostic procedure centers are shut down and have been for over three months. 
 

The backlog at those places is tremendous. 
 

I was able to see a knee specialist weeks ago. He ordered a CAT scan and a bone density scan at the local hospital. The center called me and said they’re not doing those tests now and would call me when they reopen. 
 

 

One of my relatives in Rochester had his wife diagnosed with cancer in early March with a scheduled surgery in late March. That got pushed back to late May due to it being labeled as elective. Cancer removal became a choice.

[The Guy In Pants]

26 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

One of my relatives in Rochester had his wife diagnosed with cancer in early March with a scheduled surgery in late March. That got pushed back to late May due to it being labeled as elective. Cancer removal became a choice.

***** bull####

[B-Man]

 

 

GOOD: CBO Won’t Hide Biden’s Government Takeover of Health Care.

 

It became a major scandal when Philadelphia-based researcher Rich Weinstein uncovered video of Jonathan Gruber, the architect of Obamacare, saying: “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies.”

 

The quote became famous but was widely misunderstood; he was not referring to the penalty vs. tax question on which Chief Justice John Roberts would later uphold the law. The issue was whether the payment for a mandatory government insurance program should be scored as tax revenue – like Social Security or Medicare premiums – or considered private sector payments. This is crucial because a program scored as taxes and spending is transparently a government takeover, with potentially trillions of dollars shifted from the private sector to government.

 

There’s bad news for Joe Biden’s current plan. As Biden explained: “I’d bring back the individual mandate… and here’s the deal. We’re in a situation where if you provide an option for anybody who in fact wants to buy into Medicare for All, they can buy in.”

 

It’s hard to see how a mandate paired with a government plan could be scored by CBO as anything but taxes and spending.

 

 

The subterfuge tells you all you need to know about the efficacy of the proposal.

 

 

 

 

 

[Troll Toll]

On 6/10/2020 at 10:12 AM, Buffalo Timmy said:

One of my relatives in Rochester had his wife diagnosed with cancer in early March with a scheduled surgery in late March. That got pushed back to late May due to it being labeled as elective. Cancer removal became a choice.

Same thing happened with my mom, thanks Cuomo.

[Hedge]

 

 

[Taraka]

2 hours ago, Hedge said:

 

 

we need less expensive health care costs. My insurance premiums are killing me. For real.  If I didn't have to buy auto home and health insurance I'd actually have a pretty decent savings account by now. 

[Tiberius]

15 hours ago, Hedge said:

 

 

Right in the middle of a pandemic. Right in the middle of an economic down turn and registration surging for Obamacare. 

[Reality Check]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Right in the middle of a pandemic. Right in the middle of an economic down turn and registration surging for Obamacare. 

 

[Nanker]

The real Eddie Haskell is dead. His wannabes live on here though as social cockroaches. 

[keepthefaith]

16 hours ago, ~Kostabi~ said:

we need less expensive health care costs. My insurance premiums are killing me. For real.  If I didn't have to buy auto home and health insurance I'd actually have a pretty decent savings account by now. 

 

And possibly a health savings account.  One of the utterly ridiculous aspects of Obamacare is the stipulation that only some people that choose certain plans can have tax deductible health savings accounts while the rest are not allowed by law to have them. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...this was HillaryCare from day 1.......the dynasty put their puppet's name on it for his long list (COUGH) of accomplishments.......an abysmal failure developed by 535 minions with no health care system experience.....

[Tiberius]

Liar! No plan to replace it. Lies, all lies, more lies that can kill people. 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

 

Liar! No plan to replace it. Lies, all lies, more lies that can kill people.