The Affordable Care Act is Coming Home to Roost

[John in Jax]

Yep single payer is great.

 

http://www.ottawacit...2692/story.html

 

From the linked article above:

 

"We don't think you should be able to buy an MRI or CT scan privately," said college registrar Dr.Trevor Theman, "that it should all be a publicly funded service." Albertans currently wait as long as 37 weeks for an MRI in a public facility, but the imaging can normally be done within a couple of days at private clinic if a patient can afford the $700-plus cost.

 

Wow. That sure doesn't sound like a "free market" system to me. And this is what the Democraps want here (in the US) for us too. Unreal.

[meazza]

From the linked article above:

 

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Wow. That sure doesn't sound like a "free market" system to me. And this is what the Democraps want here (in the US) for us too. Unreal.

 

I went private for mine or else it was 7 month wait.

[Doc]

From the linked article above:

 

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Wow. That sure doesn't sound like a "free market" system to me. And this is what the Democraps want here (in the US) for us too. Unreal.

Well, not the majority of them. Otherwise Obamacrap would have been single payer. Single payer ain't gonna happen, and Obamacrap will be exhibit A when it comes to why we don't want it.

[drinkTHEkoolaid]

 

 

Are you saying businesses have more money isn't a good thing? And you actually try to pass yourself off as someone that knows something?

 

 

 

Go live in some libertarian country then where there is no health care, no schools no anything. Can't believe Conservatives have not tried to found a dumbfukastan somewhere with a minimalist government of no sewers or roads. Come on guys, lets get to it!

You're too dumb to be a troll

[Alaska Darin]

Seven MONTHS for an MRI? Yet there are still people who are pining for this.

 

Amazing.

[meazza]

Seven MONTHS for an MRI? Yet there are still people who are pining for this.

 

Amazing.

 

Depends if your doctor wants to do you a favor.

 

 

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Now the Gov't wants to start mining all kinds of personal and medical data

http://freebeacon.com/government-seeking-inclusion-of-social-and-behavioral-in-health-records/

 

But it's okay, they're the Government so it's safe. It's not like a Government entity would ever mishandle confidential information

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-employee-accidentally-sends-out-2400-social-security-numbers_753991.html

 

And a Government entity would never ever abuse confidential information

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/05/national-organization-for-marriage-donor-list-leaked-by-irs_n_3388357.html

[B-Man]

Truth Team assemble!.................................. Aflac’s Obamacare quiz shows public knows a lot about ACA

 

What’s the OFA Truth Team up to this weekend? Golfing with the president? If so, they’d better call in someone from the White House’s Entertainment Advisory Council to sing a song or make a funny video, stat. You see, insurance provider Aflac decided to host a quiz on the Affordable Care Act via Twitter, and it looks like someone’s been spreading mistruths about the most awesome piece of legislation ever written (and rewritten, and rewritten).

 

 

Aflac @Aflac

What do you know about the #ACA? Take our #HealthCareReform Quiz to find out: afl.ac/1b1jGL8

 

 

 

 

 

Workers Reveal 4 Key Health Care Reform Concerns

http://www.aflac.com...mpaign=HCR_9913

Edited September 15, 2013 by B-Man

[Nanker]

Anyone know where Jonny Coli lives? Anyone think somewhere in Florida. Maybe that's where he went to school for microbiology.

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Truth Team assemble!.................................. Aflac’s Obamacare quiz shows public knows a lot about ACA

 

What’s the OFA Truth Team up to this weekend? Golfing with the president? If so, they’d better call in someone from the White House’s Entertainment Advisory Council to sing a song or make a funny video, stat. You see, insurance provider Aflac decided to host a quiz on the Affordable Care Act via Twitter, and it looks like someone’s been spreading mistruths about the most awesome piece of legislation ever written (and rewritten, and rewritten).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Workers Reveal 4 Key Health Care Reform Concerns

http://www.aflac.com...mpaign=HCR_9913

 

racist white duck

[drinkTHEkoolaid]

 

 

racist white duck

 

Bwaahahaha

[DC Tom]

Seven MONTHS for an MRI? Yet there are still people who are pining for this.

 

Amazing.

 

The free market rewards success and punishes failure.

 

The completely regulated market...well, that just punishes the **** out of everyone.

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http://nypost.com/2013/09/15/obamacare-will-question-your-sex-life/

[Tiberius]

37 weeks--at the worst case-- as opposed to not getting it at all? I think anyone going to choose the wait, duh!

 

$700 and it's only a few days.

 

Seven MONTHS for an MRI? Yet there are still people who are pining for this.

 

Amazing.

Isn't the VA socialized medicine? That works pretty well, doesn't it? Try to tell veterans to f-off and join in the market, they will never give up their socialized system

[B-Man]

Congress’s Exemption from Obamacare :Make Congress get insurance the same way the little people do? Hill denizens howl in fury.

 

By John Fund

 

Prostitution. Bribery. Blackmail. Thuggery. Hypocrisy.

 

Those were just some of the incendiary words thrown around the U.S. Senate last week, and that doesn’t count what people said in private.

The Senate may still have a reputation as a genteel club, but lawmakers seemed to abandon rules of decorum completely last week in arguments about whether Congress should be treated like the rest of the country when it comes to Obamacare.

 

Senator David Vitter, a Louisiana Republican, has demanded a floor vote on his bill to end an exemption that members of Congress and their staffs are slated to get that will make them the only participants in the new Obamacare exchanges to receive generous subsidies from their employer to pay for their health insurance. Angry Senate Democrats have drafted legislation that dredges up a 2007 prostitution scandal involving Vitter. The confrontation is a perfect illustration of just how wide the gulf in attitudes is between the Beltway and the rest of the country — and how viciously Capitol Hill denizens will fight for their privileges.

 

In 1995, the newly elected Republican Congress passed a Congressional Accountability Act to fulfill a promise made the previous year in the Contract with America. For the first time, the Act applied to Congress the same civil-rights employment and labor laws that lawmakers had required everyday citizens to abide by. With some lapses, it’s worked well to defuse public outrage about “one law for thee, one law for me” congressional behavior.

 

In 2009, Senator Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) decided that the principle deserved to be embedded in Obamacare, and he was able to insert a provision requiring all members of Congress and their staffs to get insurance through the Obamacare health exchanges. “The more that Congress experiences the laws it passes, the better,” said Grassley. Although his amendment was watered down before final passage to exclude committee staff, it still applies to members of Congress and their personal staffs. Most employment lawyers interpreted that to mean that the taxpayer-funded federal health-insurance subsidies dispensed to those on Congress’s payroll — which now range from $5,000 to $11,000 a year — would have to end.

 

Democratic and Republican staffers alike were furious, warning that Congress faced a “brain drain” if the provision stuck. Under behind-the-scenes pressure from members of Congress in both parties, President Obama used the quiet of the August recess to personally order the Office of Personnel Management, which supervises federal employment issues, to interpret the law so as to retain the generous congressional benefits.

 

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What Vitter’s opponents fear most is that this fight will penetrate the public’s consciousness. A new poll taken for Independent Women’s Voice, a conservative group, found that 92 percent of voters think Congress shouldn’t be exempted from the insurance provisions of Obamacare. Most voters blame both parties equally for the exemption, which means Republicans will also be hurt politically if it stands. “This is an issue with almost unprecedented intensity,” IWV president Heather Higgins told me. “Republicans have the choice of leading the Vitter parade for repeal or getting run over by it. To duck it will be viewed by their constituents as political malpractice.”

[Chef Jim]

37 weeks--at the worst case-- as opposed to not getting it at all? I think anyone going to choose the wait, duh!

 

$700 and it's only a few days.

 

 

Isn't the VA socialized medicine? That works pretty well, doesn't it? Try to tell veterans to f-off and join in the market, they will never give up their socialized system

 

What do you mean or not at all? I need an MRI I can get it today. 37 weeks....great.

 

And yeah the VA runs swimmingly well. Are you seriously suggesting that system??

 

Nice work troll.

[B-Man]

From the L.A. Times, (that hotbed of right-wing scare-tactics), Insurers limiting doctors, hospitals in health insurance market:

The doctor can’t see you now.

 

Consumers may hear that a lot more often after getting health insurance under President Obama’s Affordable Care Act.

To hold down premiums, major insurers in California have sharply limited the number of doctors and hospitals available to patients in the state’s new health insurance market opening Oct. 1.

 

New data reveal the extent of those cuts in California, a crucial test bed for the federal healthcare law.

These diminished medical networks are fueling growing concerns that many patients will still struggle to get care despite the nation’s biggest healthcare expansion in half a century.

 

Consumers could see long wait times, a scarcity of specialists and loss of a longtime doctor.

 

“These narrow networks won’t work because they cut off access for patients,” said Dr. Richard Baker, executive director of the Urban Health Institute at Charles Drew University of Medicine and Science in Los Angeles. “We don’t want this to become a roadblock.”

 

 

 

Welcome to the new normal.

[meazza]

37 weeks--at the worst case-- as opposed to not getting it at all? I think anyone going to choose the wait, duh!

 

$700 and it's only a few days.

 

 

$700 after paying nearly half my salary in taxes, not including sales tax, health care contribution etc to a system that is always for some reason underfunded?

[Azalin]

Isn't the VA socialized medicine? That works pretty well, doesn't it? Try to tell veterans to f-off and join in the market, they will never give up their socialized system

you don't know anyone regularly treated at a VA facility, do you? if there was anybody more deserving of the highest quality medical care, it's those that have served the country and payed for it with their limbs and minds. not only do they often not get the care they deserve, you would hold that up as a model for the rest of the nation?

 

you post to antagonize, not to discuss. this is just troll-sport for you. if you really believed half of what you post, you'd be too stupid to breathe.

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Isn't the VA socialized medicine? That works pretty well, doesn't it? Try to tell veterans to f-off and join in the market, they will never give up their socialized system

 

Dude seriously? Do you even know anybody that goes to the VA?