John from Riverside Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Williams was projected to Safety to begin with when he was drafted anyways. The draft pundits thought he would make a cracker jack safety.....lets see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan888 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Is he being moved to free or strong safety? Does the timing of this have anything to do with what's going on with Byrd right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) Is he being moved to free or strong safety? Does the timing of this have anything to do with what's going on with Byrd right now? 1] In general terms he would be a strong safety, competing against Searcy for the starting job depending on who they sign or draft. 2] Pettine's defense, from what I have seen and read, uses the safeties as somewhat interchangeable, but usually one guy will be more toward the box and that would likely be the Williams role. 3] Pettine also likes to use three safeties on passing downs so AW will figure to be one of those guys. 4] I think the Byrd contract has something to do with it, but not any more than 5-6 other things had to do with it. To me, a lot of stuff just happened... 5] Since this a new coach and DC and scheme, the new coaches have spent the last couple months going through every play the Bills players made and likely finished that evaluation recently. so for the first time, Pettine and his staff have an idea of AW's strengths and weakness from their personal grades. 6] The team was probably interested in some FA that they either decided weren't worth it or signed with other teams or for whatever reason, a few weeks into free agency they have a better feeling for the roster. They didn't add a safety so they need one. 7] The start of the OTAs are coming up and this decision needs to be made before they get going to get Williams ready. 8] The draft is coming up and they very much need to know if they have one more safety or one less CB, etc, to help decide who to draft. 9] Byrd is now going to be here for at least a year but they don't know how long and MAY have to replace him. AW needs to start playing safety now so they know a year from now whether he can perhaps handle it which could influence how much they are willing to pay Byrd. Edited April 16, 2013 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) Actually, yes, you could. 99% of guys find a way not to fail drug tests every year; the fact that this guy failed 10+ is a gigantic red flag. To me, it says that football is not a priority to him; I don't want to draft a guy like that. Setting that aside for a minute, this guy was away from football for what, more than a calendar year? During that time, the guy can't get in the gym enough to show off his stuff at the first possible opportunity? Again, to me that says the guy doesn't make football a priority, and I don't want to draft a guy like that. UDFA? Sure. I hear you....and your point is not lost on me. But how many non-playmaking choirboys do the Bills have to draft before we take a chance? I don't even know if I like the guy as a player, but the drug tests don't scare me. How many drug tests did Chris Carter fail before his HOF career took off? Edited April 16, 2013 by JPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floridabillsfan1 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Good maybe we can get something out of this guy now ? I doubt it, but maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Not so fast. They might be looking for Byrd's replacement. Beat me to it. Maybe this lends credence to the idea that Byrd may be moved this year. They need to sign Byrd before camp or get something for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I hear you....and your point is not lost on me. But how many non-playmaking choirboys do the Bills have to draft before we take a chance? I don't even know if I like the guy as a player, but the drug tests don't scare me. How many drug tests did Chris Carter fail before his HOF career took off? I definitely agree that it's okay to take a chance on a guy, but I'd rather it be on a guy like Travis Kelce (just an example) who made 1 isolated mistake that hurt his team, as opposed to a guy like Mathieu who, seemingly, just can't get the message. Again, my opinion on him would likely be different if this team contended for the Superbowl every year, but as a team that can't even get to the dance, they can't afford to invest draft picks on guys who have that kind of history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I definitely agree that it's okay to take a chance on a guy, but I'd rather it be on a guy like Travis Kelce (just an example) who made 1 isolated mistake that hurt his team, as opposed to a guy like Mathieu who, seemingly, just can't get the message. Again, my opinion on him would likely be different if this team contended for the Superbowl every year, but as a team that can't even get to the dance, they can't afford to invest draft picks on guys who have that kind of history. Depends on the round. 4th or lower....I say why not. I like Kelce. Ya know he scored 2 TDs against Marrone this year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Good move. CB is now much more in play I agree, sooner than later, as there is a lot of CB's in RD2 that'd fit what Pettine's trying to do. We still might take Shamarko Thomas if he falls to RD5, unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 He was a top projected safety/CB in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I definitely agree that it's okay to take a chance on a guy, but I'd rather it be on a guy like Travis Kelce (just an example) who made 1 isolated mistake that hurt his team, as opposed to a guy like Mathieu who, seemingly, just can't get the message. Again, my opinion on him would likely be different if this team contended for the Superbowl every year, but as a team that can't even get to the dance, they can't afford to invest draft picks on guys who have that kind of history. Some might say that's all the more reason to take chances like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 you knew the move to safety was coming....no big surprise..... do the bills now take Dee Milliner if he's there at #8 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 you knew the move to safety was coming....no big surprise..... do the bills now take Dee Milliner if he's there at #8 ? Unless they love a QB there, then yes, they would most likely grab Milliner at 8 if available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig van Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) A smaller less talented version of Adam "Pacman" Jones? No thanks. On second thought, he's only failed 10 drug tests, so he obviously learns from his mistakes and is willing to put his career above drugs... Edited April 16, 2013 by Ludwig van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Front Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Great!! Now the Bills can draft another loser CB in one of the first two rounds! Let's add another RB with one of our first two picks as well. :wallbash: :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Great!! Now the Bills can draft another loser CB in one of the first two rounds! Let's add another RB with one of our first two picks as well. :wallbash: :wallbash: Ithink a number of us hoped we would move A&W to safety for both Bills, Bills fans, and him. A chance to succeed, and hell bells man , he needs to work out well for us since we spent that valued draft pick on him. Maybe less of us expected it. Great move by the organization on a couple levels. Darn smart is the most important one. The kid might well nail it playing in Mikes D. Aaron is taking it well and thats a good sign. I think he will be an asset or better because of this coaching style and scheme. And Williams natural physical talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickedface Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 its not really shocking at all. i remember even before he was drafted that it was suggested he would probably be moved to safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 like it's been said - saw this coming makes good sense, his skill set and body type point to safety rather than corner and I like this coaching staff. "Your a safety" not -"were gonna try you at safety" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Makes sense I guess, guy didn't seem to be cutting it as a corner and we need a SS. With Gilmore the number one, McKelvin at the slot, and Brooks at the dime maybe they see something with Justin Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 So I take it we're going to be drafting another CB and hoping he's the playmaker McKelvin was supposed to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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