Buddy Nix and "two or three quarterbacks in this draft"

[Jukester]

I think buddy's board is:

Smith

Barkley

Manuel

[mrags]

 

Find me as "billsfan" over on boards.buffalobills.com then talk about reputation. I come here more often than not just for different insight. Seldom post here because I tend to stick to the message board on the Bills webpage.

Skooby??? Is that you? Does your neighbor drive a BMW?

[thewildrabbit]

I look at the last 3 years of drafts and have to think that Nix isn't the one I'm counting on to get the "franchise" QB issue resolved. If anyone, it should be Marrone / Hackett doing the evaluating of this years draft class of QB's.

 

Buddy Nix / Chan Gailey, and their first pick back in 2010 was all Gailey because Chan had coached against him in college, and knew how dynamic Spiller was before they drafted him. This years draft may hold the same type of vision for Marrone, although he isn't talking about his pseudo "water-bug" months before the draft like Gailey did.

 

 

Just food for thought: the orangemen played against both USC & WV last year. While they beat the Mountaineers in a bowl game 38-14, and Geno Smith played poorly. Syracuse lost big in week two to USC 42-29 Matt Barkley threw SIX TD's against Syracuse with a QB rating of 188.4.

 

Plus, Barkley was very well versed in a "pro style" offense while at USC, and he is probably more NFL ready then any other QB in this years draft. While not having prototypical NFL QB size and arm strength he has enough arm to make every throw if he is set properly. Smart QB and knows how to read a defense, set protections.

 

That said, the Bills signing Kolb tells me that a QB is no longer their main priority in this years draft. This whole thing might be a good old boy smoke screen to nab the guy they really want. Since they allowed OG Levitre to walk and haven't really replaced him, they cut two starting WR's and haven't replaced them either. I'm thinking WR or O line with this years first pick. Matt Barkley with the 2nd.

Edited April 16, 2013 by FeartheLosing

[Rockinon]

I think Manuel moved up but not that high. Pretty certain that Geno will be gone by #8. That leaves Nassib and Barkley. My theory is the Bills will take a QB with their first pick because it is the most important position on the team and because the pickings are so slim this year(It's also such a vital need on this team). They may trade down(kind of a gutsy move because I think they risk missing out on the QB they want). In any case, it's still QB with their first pick. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck........it's probably a duck.

 

Who will it be...........???? Just speculation, but can't imagine any other position doing more to help this team than QB... so Nassib or Barkley.

[PromoTheRobot]

All that being so, how could Buddy pass on a QB at 8 when he's gone on record saying there are 2 or 3 Franchise caliber guys?

Cordy Glenn is a guard

 

PTR

[San Jose Bills Fan]

Find me as "billsfan" over on boards.buffalobills.com then talk about reputation. I come here more often than not just for different insight. Seldom post here because I tend to stick to the message board on the Bills webpage.

 

Regardless of how respected you say you are over there, you seem to be having a hard time differentiating between the idea of Nix saying things before the draft versus saying things after the draft.

[Ball'n]

 

 

For me it's:

1-2 Geno and Nassib.

3 Manuel.

 

And if there are now three guys instead of two, it increases the chances of not taking a QB at 8.

 

Kelly, out of curiosity, did you hear Nix's comments about Manuel's inconsistency? The general vibe from attendees at the luncheon is that they are not high on Manuel, what makes you think differently?

[Kelly the Dog]

Kelly, out of curiosity, did you hear Nix's comments about Manuel's inconsistency? The general vibe from attendees at the luncheon is that they are not high on Manuel, what makes you think differently?

I wrote this before those quotes were said. I still have yet to see the direct quotes, so I'm not sure if my opinion will change or not. I don't think it's any surprise to anyone that Manuel was considered inconsistent, otherwise he would very likely be the consensus top choice.

[KOKBILLS]

That said, the Bills signing Kolb tells me that a QB is no longer their main priority in this years draft.

 

It's their #1 priority by far...And it should be...It's completely clear by the way they have handled the evaluation process on the top 8 (or so) QB's with laser focus...But that does not mean they'll use the #8 overall pick, or even a 1st Round pick on QB necessarily...That all depends on how they grade out the prospects...But I have absolutely no doubt that Kolb, or no Kolb, QB is the #1 priority this Draft...It's just that obvious IMHO...

[papazoid]

safest and surest picks in the draft:

 

#1- Luke Joeckel

#2- Chance Womack

#3- Eric Fisher

#4- Dee Milliner

#5- Jonathan Cooper

#6- Lane Johnson

[mrags]

safest and surest picks in the draft:

 

#1- Luke Joeckel

#2- Chance Womack

#3- Eric Fisher

#4- Dee Milliner

#5- Jonathan Cooper

#6- Lane Johnson

dont like Joekel as a #1 Johnson and Fisher will be better IMO.

[MarkKelso'sHelmet]

he compared barkley to joe montana? sounds to me like he wants barkley... did he give any comments on geno smith?

Edited April 16, 2013 by MarkKelso'sHelmet

[BillsVet]

Everytime I hear Buddy speak, it reminds me of Taggart played by Slim Pickens from Blazing Saddles:

 

 

Edited April 17, 2013 by BillsVet

[KOKBILLS]

safest and surest picks in the draft:

 

#1- Luke Joeckel

#2- Chance Womack

#3- Eric Fisher

#4- Dee Milliner

#5- Jonathan Cooper

#6- Lane Johnson

 

Where's Dion Jordan?

[Solomon Grundy]

I noticed that Jon Gruden has declared Nassib the best QB in the draft. I haven't tracked Gruden's rankingss over the years so can make no comment. How about you guys?

 

FWIW I believe the two QBs who will be flops are Smith & Glennon; I'd avoid both like the plague, especially in the first two rounds. Of the remaining top guys, I think the Bills are looking at Nassib, Barkley, Manuel & Wilson. If they think the Kevin Kolb they signed is the guy so many really liked w/ the Igles, they may elect not to pick any of those QBs, instead waiting until the 3rd or 4th round where they will take one of those guys if available (highly unlikely) or a project QB such as Bray or Scott.

 

Only because Glennon can't run the read option. He said Nassib is the best in class because he can run any offense given to him. He also gushed about Glennon and how he will shred defenses in the NFL. Called him a classic drop back passer. He said Manuel scared him with his ball security and didnt like Wilson's footwork.

Edited April 17, 2013 by the skycap

[thewildrabbit]

It's their #1 priority by far...And it should be...It's completely clear by the way they have handled the evaluation process on the top 8 (or so) QB's with laser focus...But that does not mean they'll use the #8 overall pick, or even a 1st Round pick on QB necessarily...That all depends on how they grade out the prospects...But I have absolutely no doubt that Kolb, or no Kolb, QB is the #1 priority this Draft...It's just that obvious IMHO...

You contradict yourself! QB is the #1 priority, and yet its OK to not take one at #8.... which is exactly what I said, O line or WR #1 and QB at #2.

 

If QB is their highest priority, then why wouldn't they make it a 100% certainty to grab the QB they want at #8?

Edited April 17, 2013 by FeartheLosing

[KeisterHollow]

As much as everybody says this is a bad year for QB's, Buffalo fans should be rejoicing that this year's class is as it is. We're the most QB hungry, depraved team in the NFL. I would go so far as to say we might have been in the running for a playoff spot last year had we had a better QB (I know, our defense was more of a problem, but you never know how the right QB could raise a team).

 

Anyway, I've been so frustrated with Buffalo for never losing enough games to get the guy they need to turn things around, and having to sit through 6-10 seasons - pointless! However, we Bills fans might finally have found our LUCKY year! First, we get the new coaching staff - I really like their potential.

 

As for the QB - in almost every draft before and again, the best QB's would be gone by pick 8. How many of us, this time last year, if we knew we'd be picking 8, would guess we'd be in line to have our choice of MAYBE every QB in the draft? And, if not every one - how many of us would have guessed we could be picking from Matt Barkley, Landry Jones, Tyler Wilson, or maybe Geno Smith? Barkley was being compared favorably to Luck. I, for one, don't think a bad year, behind a bad line, that included an injury to the throwing shoulder, would all of a sudden make Barkley - one of last year's favorites for this year's #1 overall pick - that much less of a prospect.

 

I don't think Buffalo could have scripted this scenario better for themselves. By December the nation very well might be saying how Buffalo came away with the steal of this year's draft!

[KOKBILLS]

You contradict yourself! QB is the #1 priority, and yet its OK to not take one at #8.... which is exactly what I said, O line or WR #1 and QB at #2.

 

If QB is their highest priority, then why wouldn't they make it a 100% certainty to grab the QB they want at #8?

 

 

QB is the #1 priority...Period...My comment was in direct response to your belief that QB is no longer the Bills top priority because they signed Kolb...And I disagree...The comment was about priority, not where we would Draft one because #1 priority or not you have a Draft board to follow...You can't just say...QB is the top priority so come hell or high water we're going to take a QB at #8, even if the top QB available at #8 is rated #38 on our board...So maybe they trade down a bit...Maybe they are forced to wait till the 2nd round...They're not going to reach too far based on their board just because it's by far the teams #1 need and largest priority...I'm sure there is a limit...And that's exactly why they signed Kolb...Insurance...

 

I'll rephrase my comment so as not to contradict myself...If the Bills feel a QB is worthy of the #8 pick they will take that QB because it is their greatest need...And they will make it their priority to get a QB they really like somewhere in the first two rounds...But things have to play out...And there are too many variables right now to say with certainty that a QB will be Drafted at #8...Regardless of priority...

[papazoid]

 

 

Where's Dion Jordan?

 

probably 7th......nice player, but he comes with risk. he played DE in college but projects as an OLB in a 3-4 defense. most likely will start out as a pass rushing specialist and not an every down player in his first year. he has a bum shoulder and underwent surgery after the combine.

 

all those first 6 players I mentioned start from day 1 and play all downs.

[NickelCity]

Watched the luncheon. My takeaway: Nix actually wants to do it - he actually wants to trade down. Also, I think Barkley is who we're targeting. I know these are fairly obvious takeaways for those who have watched it, but hey, if I can't read Bills' news I'll write my own until draft day.

 

EDIT: Their praise of Barkley was designed to look like a smokescreen...when in fact they actually do like him. It's like a smokescreen within a smokescreen. Inception.

Edited April 17, 2013 by NickelCity