Magox Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Finally, so the question is: Does Andy Levitre deserve to be the fourth highest paid guard in the league? I believe that sounds about right to me... If he were on a decent team, he'd most likely be a pro bowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I wonder if we'll get a comp pick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickenbru Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I think this was a good non-move by the Bills. OGs do not have enough of an impact to warrant that much cap. I wish Andy the best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Think about how many years it took us to get a guard like Levitre and then tell me again how easy it is. How true!!!! People act as if it is just so easy to grab a quality guard. Bill Parcells once said that it's easier to find wide reveivers in the dradt than guards, and no, I do not have a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Bills will now sign Reinhart if they can. He performed well in his starts these last couple of years, and, although he is not as flexible as Levetre in terms of moving to tackle, he is pretty good at guard. He also will not cost $8 mil a year. He will get 2-3 mil, I think though. Oh, that sure is a big comfort. Think about how many years it took us to get a guard like Levitre and then tell me again how easy it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Finally, so the question is: Does Andy Levitre deserve to be the fourth highest paid guard in the league? thats got to be one year hits, not long term averages. otherwise, those numbers are just wrong. but it still puts him right about 5. a fair deal. doesnt mean we dont have plans for some other fair deal that will benefit us more. I wonder if we'll get a comp pick for him. my guess is no. we will only have so many expiring contracts, and odds are we will sign a lot of low level free agents as bandaids in the transition to new schemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Tennessee has no state income tax... After looking at the Flacco situation, I think Levitre is making a heck of a lot more there than he would've in Buffalo, even if we had matched... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Levitre got what he could, good on him. Its going to be hard to lose him. Anyone who watched him knew he was a key cog in the turnaround of the O-line. But 7.8 per year for a guard is tough to match when you can find guards who can do a good job for much less. Tough loss for the Bills but I hope they make a move to bring in a guard, Brandon Moore would be a nice fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/165803-top-salaries-2012-players-each-position/ Highest Paid OGs (2012): Carl Nicks, Buccaneers - $12,500,000 - Signed thru 2016 Davin Joseph, Buccaneers - $9,500,000 - Signed thru 2017 Chris Snee, Giants - $7,900,000 - Signed thru 2013 Logan Mankins, Patriots - $7,000,000 - Signed thru 2016 Marshall Yanda, Ravens - $6,500,000 - Signed thru 2015 Uche Nwaneri, Jaguars - $4,191,666 - Signed thru 2015 Harvey Dahl, Rams - $4,000,000 - Signed thru 2014 Todd Herremans, Eagles - $3,800,000 - Signed thru 2016 Jahri Evans, Saints - $3,600,000 - Signed thru 2016 Chris Kuper, Broncos - $3,500,000 - Signed thru 2015 Steve Hutchinson, Titans - $3,500,000 (tied for 10th with Kuper) - Signed thru 2014 Jeremy Zuttah, Buccaneers - $3,375,000 - Signed thru 2015 Justin Blalock, Falcons - $3,360,000 - Signed thru 2016 Richie Incognito, Dolphins - $3,300,000 - Signed thru 2013 Josh Sitton, Packers - $3,100,000 - Signed thru 2016 Daryn Colledge, Cardinals - $2,975,000 - Signed thru 2015 Brandon Moore, Jets - $2,750,000 - Signed thru 2012 Stephen Peterman, Lions - $2,725,000 - Signed thru 2013 Ben Grubbs, Saints - $2,700,000 - Signed thru 2016 Leroy Harris, Titans - $2,700,000 - Signed thru 2012 thats 2012 1 year salaries. it ignores long term averages, bonuses etc... ie its worthless to the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I can see where some of you would have preferred to outbid the Titans on this, but at $8m you can't rationally say this is but so terrible a move. If that money is used to fill other holes and/or retain other players, you have to weigh that against what was lost...unless you just get off on complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I wonder if we'll get a comp pick for him. Not necessarily. The NFL typically won't give you a comp pick unless you have a net loss of free agents (players who were cut don't count). We probably won't lose anyone else besides Levitre, unless maybe someone signs McIntyre or Nelson. (Actually, I'm not even sure if Nelson would count, since we declined to tender him.) So if we sign even 2 UFAs who weren't cut by their former teams, we're ineligible for any comp picks, even if we signed those guys to low-end deals. And given that we have a new coaching staff who will want to bring in "their guys" -- especially on defense -- I think it's pretty likely that we sign 4-5 UFAs to low/mid money deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/165803-top-salaries-2012-players-each-position/ Highest Paid OGs (2012): Carl Nicks, Buccaneers - $12,500,000 - Signed thru 2016 Davin Joseph, Buccaneers - $9,500,000 - Signed thru 2017 Chris Snee, Giants - $7,900,000 - Signed thru 2013 Logan Mankins, Patriots - $7,000,000 - Signed thru 2016 Marshall Yanda, Ravens - $6,500,000 - Signed thru 2015 Uche Nwaneri, Jaguars - $4,191,666 - Signed thru 2015 Harvey Dahl, Rams - $4,000,000 - Signed thru 2014 Todd Herremans, Eagles - $3,800,000 - Signed thru 2016 Jahri Evans, Saints - $3,600,000 - Signed thru 2016 Chris Kuper, Broncos - $3,500,000 - Signed thru 2015 Steve Hutchinson, Titans - $3,500,000 (tied for 10th with Kuper) - Signed thru 2014 Jeremy Zuttah, Buccaneers - $3,375,000 - Signed thru 2015 Justin Blalock, Falcons - $3,360,000 - Signed thru 2016 Richie Incognito, Dolphins - $3,300,000 - Signed thru 2013 Josh Sitton, Packers - $3,100,000 - Signed thru 2016 Daryn Colledge, Cardinals - $2,975,000 - Signed thru 2015 Brandon Moore, Jets - $2,750,000 - Signed thru 2012 Stephen Peterman, Lions - $2,725,000 - Signed thru 2013 Ben Grubbs, Saints - $2,700,000 - Signed thru 2016 Leroy Harris, Titans - $2,700,000 - Signed thru 2012 thats 2012 1 year salaries. it ignores long term averages, bonuses etc... ie its worthless to the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Oh, that sure is a big comfort. Heh, I said this in another post - if you put Levitre's jersey on Reinhart 95% of the people on this board would not notice the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Soo much for keeping our own! "Building through the draft" means making all attempts to keep a great OL! Idiots!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Not necessarily. The NFL typically won't give you a comp pick unless you have a net loss of free agents (players who were cut don't count). We probably won't lose anyone else besides Levitre, unless maybe someone signs McIntyre or Nelson. (Actually, I'm not even sure if Nelson would count, since we declined to tender him.) So if we sign even 2 UFAs who weren't cut by their former teams, we're ineligible for any comp picks, even if we signed those guys to low-end deals. And given that we have a new coaching staff who will want to bring in "their guys" -- especially on defense -- I think it's pretty likely that we sign 4-5 UFAs to low/mid money deals. i dont think that nelson counts because of the option to tender. essentially we had first dibs on him and couldve gotten compensation if he left if we wanted. generally spot on though, and why i dont expect a comp pick here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Too much for an OG who's never made a Pro Bowl or had playoff experience. He's a fine player, but that is a budget buster... Thank you. Guards are no where near worth that much but God Bless him for getting paid that much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Per Shefter. 5 years, $39 million. Per Tennessee sources, six years $46.8 million ($7.8 million per): http://blogs.buffalonews.com/press-coverage/2013/03/bills-lose-andy-levitre-to-titans.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Soo much for keeping our own! "Building through the draft" means making all attempts to keep a great OL! Idiots!!! Again...Guards aren't worth the money period. Tackles and Centers, that is where the money should be spent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 thats 2012 1 year salaries. it ignores long term averages, bonuses etc... ie its worthless to the discussion. Not really. You can structure contracts in all kinds of ways, but it's likely his 2013 salary will be heavily front loaded. If so, he'll be near the top of this list next year and well above his peers overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Tennessee has no state income tax... After looking at the Flacco situation, I think Levitre is making a heck of a lot more there than he would've in Buffalo, even if we had matched... Great point. 7.9 in TEN is 8.2 in NY (assuming 5%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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