todzilla Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Not saying I support this idea, but to say Kelly showed no accumen on the field is silly. He called the plays for on of the most prolific offenses ever. I know he had weapons, but he made it hum. Elway went to Stanford, Kelly went to the U...thats probably all you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 He absolutely could do worse. If some miracle happens and whoever buys the Bills decides to keep them in this area, they should hire #12 as a PR front man to get the fans fired up and and buy tickets etc. Nothing more than that. But you don't have any evidence he can't do the job, just as those that think he can don't. I just wouldn't underestimate someone's ability when it's something they're passionate about. Clearly Jim loves the city and the team. Jim clearly has a decent sense of business. He's a very respected man in and around the NFL. I think it's possible he could do a good job as has been shown in many different sports i.e. Lemieux, Nolan Ryan, Elway. I can promise you one thing, he's much more than some dingy jock that we should use to wave at the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Now, if we can only get Bruce Smith for head coach. We would definantly have the 2 biggest heads in Pro Sports.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 again, Buffalo has a problem attracting players and coaches Jim Kelly would be a magnet... As opposed to his role now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hansen Forever Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 What makes you think Kelly has a clue? How did Marv Levy work out? PTR He isn't doing so well with his NASCAR work, what makes anyone think he has the brains to run anything? Where are the Superbowl Rings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 In the same vein, how about Jose Canseco for GM (if he's not getting pummeled in a boxing ring somewhere)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 He knows how to close businesses down, I'll give you that. Respected as what a very good QB, yes front office I don't think so. Jim clearly has a decent sense of business. He's a very respected man in and around the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Longest playoff drought in the NFL After watching what John Elway has accomplished in Denver, could JK do any worse then what Bills management has done over the last decade? Here's what John Elway thinks of your thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 wasnt jim kelly also the one saying the bills screwed up by not getting tebow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Exactly, let's stop reaching in the past to resolve current problems. No Jim Kelly, No Bill Polian. Let's get some young talent or maybe give Doug Whaley a try at GM. I think we should go after the guy in your avatar. Who wouldn't want the most interesting man in the world as the GM? I mean Cuba even imports cigars from this dude. Just think of the players we could lure in. And I'm sure we would have the best looking cheerleaders in the league as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Jim Kelly is a moron. Comparing him to Elway is like comparing Vince Young to Fitz in the brain category. No thanks. Edited December 19, 2012 by gugny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) I can't believe I'm reading this thread. (As though the thread from the other day, suggesting Jim Kelly for head coach, wasn't enough.) There's a normal career track in the NFL. If you want to be a head coach, you start off as a quality control guy. Then, if you do well, you become a position coach. Then an offensive or defensive coordinator. Finally a head coach. By the time you've been given the head coach mantle, you've proven your passion for coaching, via your countless number of long workweeks. You've (presumably) proven yourself a good teacher as a position coach. You've hopefully proven yourself a master of X's and O's as a coordinator. The same is true for a front office career track. As a scout, you'll have evaluated large numbers of players over the years. In order to receive promotions, your evaluations will (presumably) need to have been more accurate than the norm for scouts, over a long period of time. The above-described screening system doesn't always work. But it exists for a reason. While it may not filter out all of the unsuitable people who pass through it, it filters out a great many. The idea that Jim Kelly should be exempted from this filtering process, and should be sent straight to the top--either as a head coach or a GM--is hard to fathom. There are plenty of young, hungry people willing to work for a top position like that. Who are willing to subject themselves to that filtering process. Let the position go to one of them. Let it go to whichever of them is the hungriest, the most competent, and has shown the greatest edge in the specific field in question. Meaning, if you want a good coach, look for a guy who's providing good coaching already. If you want a good general manager, look for a guy who at very least is doing an excellent job as a talent scout. Give me a guy who thinks outside the box; and who uses said outside-the-box thinking to produce consistently better results than his peers. Bill Belichick is like that with respect to X's and O's; regardless of whether you like or hate him as a coach or as a human being. Edited December 19, 2012 by Edwards' Arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Elway graduated from Stanford. Kelly graduated from U of Miami. Elway was a hugely successful businessman parlaying his name into several businesses. Kelly has successfully run a low level charity organization for a disease that affects 1 in 5 million. No.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Remember, they don't give IQ tests when registering for this site. I can't believe I'm reading this thread. (As though the thread from the other day, suggesting Jim Kelly for head coach, wasn't enough.) There's a normal career track in the NFL. If you want to be a head coach, you start off as a quality control guy. Then, if you do well, you become a position coach. Then an offensive or defensive coordinator. Finally a head coach. By the time you've been given the head coach mantle, you've proven your passion for coaching, via your countless number of long workweeks. You've (presumably) proven yourself a good teacher as a position coach. You've hopefully proven yourself a master of X's and O's as a coordinator. The same is true for a front office career track. As a scout, you'll have evaluated large numbers of players over the years. In order to receive promotions, your evaluations will (presumably) need to have been more accurate than the norm for scouts, over a long period of time. The above-described screening system doesn't always work. But it exists for a reason. While it may not filter out all of the unsuitable people who pass through it, it filters out a great many. The idea that Jim Kelly should be exempted from this filtering process, and should be sent straight to the top--either as a head coach or a GM--is hard to fathom. There are plenty of young, hungry people willing to work for a top position like that. Who are willing to subject themselves to that filtering process. Let the position go to one of them. Let it go to whichever of them is the hungriest, the most competent, and has shown the greatest edge in the specific field in question. Meaning, if you want a good coach, look for a guy who's providing good coaching already. If you want a good general manager, look for a guy who at very least is doing an excellent job as a talent scout. Give me a guy who thinks outside the box; and who uses said outside-the-box thinking to produce consistently better results than his peers. Bill Belichick is like that with respect to X's and O's; regardless of whether you like or hate him as a coach or as a human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I can't believe I'm reading this thread. (As though the thread from the other day, suggesting Jim Kelly for head coach, wasn't enough.) There's a normal career track in the NFL. If you want to be a head coach, you start off as a quality control guy. Then, if you do well, you become a position coach. Then an offensive or defensive coordinator. Finally a head coach. By the time you've been given the head coach mantle, you've proven your passion for coaching, via your countless number of long workweeks. You've (presumably) proven yourself a good teacher as a position coach. You've hopefully proven yourself a master of X's and O's as a coordinator. The same is true for a front office career track. As a scout, you'll have evaluated large numbers of players over the years. In order to receive promotions, your evaluations will (presumably) need to have been more accurate than the norm for scouts, over a long period of time. The above-described screening system doesn't always work. But it exists for a reason. While it may not filter out all of the unsuitable people who pass through it, it filters out a great many. The idea that Jim Kelly should be exempted from this filtering process, and should be sent straight to the top--either as a head coach or a GM--is hard to fathom. There are plenty of young, hungry people willing to work for a top position like that. Who are willing to subject themselves to that filtering process. Let the position go to one of them. Let it go to whichever of them is the hungriest, the most competent, and has shown the greatest edge in the specific field in question. Meaning, if you want a good coach, look for a guy who's providing good coaching already. If you want a good general manager, look for a guy who at very least is doing an excellent job as a talent scout. Give me a guy who thinks outside the box; and who uses said outside-the-box thinking to produce consistently better results than his peers. Bill Belichick is like that with respect to X's and O's; regardless of whether you like or hate him as a coach or as a human being. Thank you. Kelly for HC sounds a lot like Levy for GM. Not how it's done, if you want to do it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 Jim Kelly is a hero of mine and my thread probably shows just how desperate this one particular Bills fan is to change the face of the franchise. Call me crazy, but I know Jim Kelly can build a good football team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkKelso'sHelmet Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 JIM KELLY FOR GM, FOR OWNER, FOR HEAD COACH, FOR OC, AND FOR STARTING QB SIMULTANEOUSLY!!!!!!!!! good GOD ALMIGHTY WILL PEOPLE PLEASE STOP POSTING ABOUT FORMER PLAYERS BEING OWNERS COACHES AND FRONT OFFICE EXECS.. IN ONE WEEK WE HAD THURMAN AS OC, KELLY AS COACH AND AS GM, AND POLIAN AS GM LOOK TO THE FUTURE, LOOK FOR A HARBAUGH TYPE. DON'T LOOK TO THE PAST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Jim Kelly is a hero of mine and my thread probably shows just how desperate this one particular Bills fan is to change the face of the franchise. Call me crazy, but I know Jim Kelly can build a good football team... Okay. You're crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Jim Kelly is a hero of mine and my thread probably shows just how desperate this one particular Bills fan is to change the face of the franchise. Call me crazy, but I know Jim Kelly can build a good football team... Youre crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Jim Kelly is a hero of mine and my thread probably shows just how desperate this one particular Bills fan is to change the face of the franchise. Call me crazy, but I know Jim Kelly can build a good football team... What makes you think that Kelly, whose experience with general managers of an NFL franchise to my knowledge begins and ends with signing a contract with one that his agent negotiated for him, would have even the slightest idea of how to do the job. Plus he is passionate about the Bills, but he does not seem like the sharpest tool in the shed. You may not be crazy, but your self proclaimed hero worship has gotten the better of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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