Rockinon Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Threads like this are an insult to the sport. Losing is not what competitors do. That kind of thinking is retarded. Condoning losing? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Holy cow. I honestly don't know how any fan would root against 9-7. Especially in a year where there is no luck or rg3. This should have been a public poll so we can see who said what. Â The Bills do not currently have a team capable of winning the Super Bowl. Nor will they win the Super Bowl until upgrades occur at a number of positions; most notably quarterback. If the goal is to win the Super Bowl, you have to ask yourself which path is the more likely to get you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Lose out, maybe get a top 3 or 4 pick, a no brainer as we will not win SB with this group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 The Bills do not currently have a team capable of winning the Super Bowl. Nor will they win the Super Bowl until upgrades occur at a number of positions; most notably quarterback. If the goal is to win the Super Bowl, you have to ask yourself which path is the more likely to get you there. Â Ahhhh yes......but you risk not be considered a REAL fan. Â Am I right all you REAL Bills fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 great question... Â 9-7 ......2 teams made the playoffs last year with 9-7, one team made playoffs at 8-8. Â 4-12......last year that would get you a Top 5 draft pick...... Â Â i pick 9-7 every time.... Â Â as i was leaving the stadium today, i could hear someone yelling ....9 & 7 BABY !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) My assumption is they WONT win out. My assumption is they'll win 3 of 4, and finish 8-8. Again. Edited December 2, 2012 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) Ahhhh yes......but you risk not be considered a REAL fan. Â Am I right all you REAL Bills fans? Yes, the troll is right! Only certain posters here can determine who can be fans of this crappy team. The hierarchy based on squatters rights on who has been on the shoutbox the longest and remembers the most banned posters. Myself, I was googling teams swirling the drain and this forum was the site that came up when I clicked the "I'm feeling lucky button." Edited December 2, 2012 by benderbender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AReed Deep For6 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I am ashamed at all the short term goals here..... is a 9-7 wild card game that we would get blown out in, worth the possibility of missing on a true franchise player (at any position). If winning the super bowl, or making a very late post season run isnt an almost certainty, than I will take the superior talent in the draft. The idea of being a perenial winner as opposed to one playoff loss and 9 more years off missing is sickening. This is why the draft rewards the crappy teams, parity in the league. The 8-8'ish'ness of this team over the years has kept us in the cellar. Winning crappy meaningless late season games, that nobody gets to watch. Dammit i wish we knew when to lose!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 My assumption is they WONT win out. My assumption is they'll win 3 of 4, and finish 8-8. Again. Â just as a point of interest, during the last 9 seasons, the bills have never finished 8-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Losing out does nothing to help this team. The playoffs are still a possibility (albeit a small one) and I want this team to fight for every game til the end of the year. Please spare me from the responses that are only trying to piss in everyone's Cheerios. There's 31 other teams out there for you guys to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I am ashamed at all the short term goals here..... is a 9-7 wild card game that we would get blown out in, worth the possibility of missing on a true franchise player (at any position). If winning the super bowl, or making a very late post season run isnt an almost certainty, than I will take the superior talent in the draft. The idea of being a perenial winner as opposed to one playoff loss and 9 more years off missing is sickening. This is why the draft rewards the crappy teams, parity in the league. The 8-8'ish'ness of this team over the years has kept us in the cellar. Winning crappy meaningless late season games, that nobody gets to watch. Dammit i wish we knew when to lose!! Â how do teams like Pit, Balt & NE keep finding talent without picking in the top half of draft ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Â how do teams like Pit, Balt & NE keep finding talent without picking in the top half of draft ? Â Don't you know that the higher you pick the better player you are guaranteed to get? It's simple logic really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Threads like this are an insult to the sport. Losing is not what competitors do. That kind of thinking is retarded. Condoning losing? Really? Â Â "Yeah, that's like....retarded. hahahahahahahahaha!" Jim Irsay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 For every Joe Montana, there's a Tom Cousineau; for every Tom Brady, a Courtney Brown. Â It goes without saying that a high draft pick does not guarantee a quality NFL player. Â (So why am I saying it??? :wallbash: ) Â Â Â GO BILLSSS!!!! Â Â 13 and 7 baby!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 how do teams like Pit, Balt & NE keep finding talent without picking in the top half of draft ? Â We're not Pitt, Balt or NE, now are we? We NEED no-brainer picks to get talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 what is gained in terms of team success and locker room is far greater than the difference between the 10th and 15th pick in the draft. there are generally pretty good linebackers in the mid to bottom of the first round. 8-8 would mean we are getting better and players can buy into that, not 14 years of garbage  I am ashamed at all the short term goals here..... is a 9-7 wild card game that we would get blown out in, worth the possibility of missing on a true franchise player (at any position). If winning the super bowl, or making a very late post season run isnt an almost certainty, than I will take the superior talent in the draft. The idea of being a perenial winner as opposed to one playoff loss and 9 more years off missing is sickening. This is why the draft rewards the crappy teams, parity in the league. The 8-8'ish'ness of this team over the years has kept us in the cellar. Winning crappy meaningless late season games, that nobody gets to watch. Dammit i wish we knew when to lose!!  you should be ashamed of this logic. we need to see the long term, and blow the rest of the season, just like every other successful team....just like indy, and..... name another one? hows st. louis doing as what seems to be a perennial top 3 draft pick every year as of late. since the greatest show on turf, they have been cruising secretly stock-piling talent, waiting for the perfect moment to go 16-0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) Would 8-8 or 9-7 only beating other really bad teams really be a success?  So far their 5 wins are against  Kansas City Cleveland Arizona Miami Jacksonville  They have a combined record of 16-43. Let's say the Bills run the table. Would anybody really be proud of a 9-7 record beating 8 sub-.500 teams, still missing the playoffs and allowing Nix and Gailey to call it progress? I can't believe anybody really thinks that would be a positive. Edited December 3, 2012 by Pondslider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Another year with Chan! No    Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKA Bigdog Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Only blind homers care anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 We're not Pitt, Balt or NE, now are we? We NEED no-brainer picks to get talent. sorry sometimes there are tiers of players that are well defined but I don't think this is one of those years, I see maybe 5 or 6 players in the first round who fit pretty good with our needs and we will probably have our pick of three of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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