markgbe Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I've always thought Orton was decent, throws the ball pretty good. i felt that he was sort of like cutler, can be good, can be bad. Better than Fitz? please omit the "anyone is better than Fitz" comments if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Better than Fitz, I've never really hated his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 orton is spot on a peer to fitz. the type of player that is a good backup, will get some shots to start because they can win some games but because of limitations teams (should) will always look to replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreakPop Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I like Orton. Wish Buffalo had made an attempt to get him last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfluker Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8_buda5vWo Edited October 24, 2012 by dfluker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Hilarious. Wish that were real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 The day we have Orton as our starting QB is the day I give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 The next person to say "spot on" and isn't British is getting tea and crumpets in the face. The revolutionary war ghost that haunts my attic didn't fight and die for us to use UK jargon. Pip pip cheerio! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibuya Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 and yet Fitz is still not the reason this team is losing games.. He is not the reason for winningthem either.. this team was supposed to have a top 10 hell top 5 D and if we actually had that this team would be 5-2 right now.. Yeah I agree we can do better then Fitz.. but there is no denying how pathetic this D has been.. Heck at one point against the Titans they were 8 and 10 on allowed 3rd down conversions.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Orton > Fitz Matt Moore > Fitz Fitz > Billy Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 someone else's trash is another team's fans treasure. See- Tarvaris Jackson, Thigpen. Hell there was a time where people wanted Kelly Holcomb to start until he actually did. Until we have a qb worth discussing meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills14 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 does anyone realize that the guy is on a team that has had the worst d in the nfl the last 2 years? Hes not SUPPOSED to be a top 5 qb the team put together what should have been a top 10 defense that should have allowed them to get enough wins with a middle of the road qb....(which if you look at his stats for the year compared to other nfl qb's he is)...to make the playoffs. Thats the next step to bringing this organization back...get to the playoffs, earn back some respect, develop your own players while also getting rid of the stigma to the rest of the nfl that buffalo is a horrible franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Fitz is OK. As Bills14 said, let's judge him with a top-15 defense - not the bottom-scrapers we currently have. Did you notice, when the defense played relatively well - we won? Not a coincidence! As for Orton, I agree with several posters - he's not bad. I just feel as though he never got a chance anywhere. I liked him in college. He's been through more coaching changes than Imelda Marcos went thru shoes. I'm for adding him - at the very least he'll push Fitz - not like Thigpen who holds Chan's clipboard for 60 minutes each Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 does anyone realize that the guy is on a team that has had the worst d in the nfl the last 2 years? Hes not SUPPOSED to be a top 5 qb the team put together what should have been a top 10 defense that should have allowed them to get enough wins with a middle of the road qb....(which if you look at his stats for the year compared to other nfl qb's he is)...to make the playoffs. Thats the next step to bringing this organization back...get to the playoffs, earn back some respect, develop your own players while also getting rid of the stigma to the rest of the nfl that buffalo is a horrible franchise. We realize his defense sucks. We watch him play. We watch him under throw and overthrow receivers all day. We would rather have a different QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garion Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I'd rather have a top 15 defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy in 4C Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Fitz > Billy Buffalo Debatable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Was never a of orton, just seems like kind of a weak leader. That being said I could see him as more competant than Fitz because hes a more accurate passer. Orton can put up points too. He can win in shootouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 The next person to say "spot on" and isn't British is getting tea and crumpets in the face. The revolutionary war ghost that haunts my attic didn't fight and die for us to use UK jargon. Pip pip cheerio! Spot on! someone else's trash is another team's fans treasure. See- Tarvaris Jackson, Thigpen. Hell there was a time where people wanted Kelly Holcomb to start until he actually did. Until we have a qb worth discussing meh I'd argue that during his time in Buffalo, Kelly Holcomb played at a noticeably higher level than Fitz. Holcomb had no offensive line whatsoever; and a running game which was often absent. His receivers were inconsistent. His #1 WR--Eric Moulds--did less than nothing for Houston after we traded him away. Nevertheless, the offense always produced at least 14 points every game in which Holcomb played from start to finish. Had a phantom pass interference call not been made against Eric Moulds, the Bills might well have beaten the Patriots. In Foxboro, no less; and in a game in which Tom Brady didn't throw four interceptions. Had Holcomb been given the kind of offensive line the Bills have now, the Spiller/Jackson running game we currently posses, a good, pass-catching TE like Chandler, and weapons like Stevie Johnson and Graham, he would have done much more than Fitz has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I like Kyle. I like Fitz too. Either one of them could take us to the playoffs this year with an average defense. If I could have any QB in the NFL I wanted to add to this Bills this year to go to the playoffs, or an average defense, I'd take the defense. In games our defense has held the opposition to under 35 points, we've won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 why is another teams backup garbage QB always thought to be better then the current QB... Changing the QB isn't going to fix the defense, which is the big problem with the team. Do I gotta remind everyone, last in the NFL against the run and 31st in total defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerland Bills Fan Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I live in the Chicago area and have seen a lot of Orton. There's a reason that the Bears gave up so much to get Cutler. This would be a lateral move at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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