Rubes Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) Sorry if already discussed, I didn't see anything... Without Nick Mendola's permission (which was taken from a screengrab from @TrendingBuffalo), I'm linking to the image of the measurement that was called a first down. This was the play that Chan challenged and failed to overturn. So seriously, under which set of bizarro NFL rules is this considered a first down? Anyone? Edited October 15, 2012 by Rubes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Unexplainable. The spot was bad and the 1st down call on the measurement was beyond belief. Just give it to 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I couldn't believe it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 theres got to be some explanation that we just havent encountered. or that from our angle it looked off but was barely touching. i have to believe that if it was legit short, the refs couldnt possibly mess that up.... could they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 theres got to be some explanation that we just havent encountered. or that from our angle it looked off but was barely touching. i have to believe that if it was legit short, the refs couldnt possibly mess that up.... could they? If you look at the picture (and I noticed it during the game), the ref is standing behind the ball, why he didn't line up to see it from the side I have no idea. Inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 If you look at the picture (and I noticed it during the game), the ref is standing behind the ball, why he didn't line up to see it from the side I have no idea. Inexcusable. is the camera angle straight though? if you swing it around to exactly dead on, maybe the tip of the ball barely got there? not saying it was the right call, just trying to figure out how something so easy could end up a head scratcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 A just give it to em moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzShowUsYourTitz Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Well these are the replacement refs! No, wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 is the camera angle straight though? if you swing it around to exactly dead on, maybe the tip of the ball barely got there? not saying it was the right call, just trying to figure out how something so easy could end up a head scratcher. The camera angle's not straight. I've seen another one, though, that's straighter and clearer. And I still think it was a bad spot, which makes the point rather moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Avenger Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 How many times are we told that we came out on the bad side of things because we were looking at it from the wrong angle? This is the homerun throwback all over again - in some sort of alternate reality the rules of physics change and we learly didn't see what we saw.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Well these are the replacement refs! No, wait. There have been some embarrassingly bad pass inteference calls the last few weeks - in the Chargers/Saints & Lions/Eagles games to name a couple. They're ruining the integrity of the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Not only did the ball look short against the chain, but the replay review looked conclusive from the overhead angle that the ball carrier was a good yard short of the 1st down. So the Bills got hosed inexplicably, twice! on the same play. There was at least 3 or so plays yesterday (and Tasker correctly pointed this out) where the linesman marked the ball, then as he walked closer to the middle of the field to place the ball for measurement, he walked on a slight angle, placing the ball closer to a 1st down than it should have been. Very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Not only did the ball look short against the chain, but the replay review looked conclusive from the overhead angle that the ball carrier was a good yard short of the 1st down. So the Bills got hosed inexplicably, twice! on the same play. There was at least 3 or so plays yesterday (and Tasker correctly pointed this out) where the linesman marked the ball, then as he walked closer to the middle of the field to place the ball for measurement, he walked on a slight angle, placing the ball closer to a 1st down than it should have been. Very frustrating. that ill agree with. it seemed like he was stumbling around out there on the spots sometimes. as far as the chain measurement here, ill stick with the if you swing the camera a few degrees to a straight shot its likely much closer looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 that ill agree with. it seemed like he was stumbling around out there on the spots sometimes. as far as the chain measurement here, ill stick with the if you swing the camera a few degrees to a straight shot its likely much closer looking. Yeah I noticed this also, annoying! I dont think I've ever seen that much daylight between the stick and the ball and have it called a first down in all of my time watching football 20+ years, angle not-withstanding. I think it was a horrible call, it was not a first down, they screwed the pooch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) The camera angle's not straight. I've seen another one, though, that's straighter and clearer. And I still think it was a bad spot, which makes the point rather moot. Take a long look at that. The camera angle is not straight but it's not from the end zone. Even looking square to the field, the ball is not ahead of the marker. It's pretty clear. When I saw it yesterday, I thought what you said, but the above photo makes me thing differently. WTF? And yes, spot was insane. As that ref walked out from the sideline, he kept tracking upfield from where the ball was. Edited October 15, 2012 by John Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I think the measurement of ten yards is the yellow chain, not the bar that is holding the chain. They made it to the end of the chain. no way a ref would mess up that call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) One of the disadvantages of being a **** team that nobody in the country cares about playing another **** team that nobody cares about is that the network sends the bare minimum of cameras to cover the game, so you end up with ****ty angles and unclear replays. Edited October 15, 2012 by Pondslider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I think the measurement of ten yards is the yellow chain, not the bar that is holding the chain. They made it to the end of the chain. no way a ref would mess up that call. seriously? so they have to look at the end of the chain, not the stick? You place the end of the chain on the approximate spot of the ball? You'd think that wouold come up once or twice when they measured, no? i think it's to the end of the officials thumb, which in this case, was in his a** just moments before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan_in_tx Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 How many times are we told that we came out on the bad side of things because we were looking at it from the wrong angle? This is the homerun throwback all over again - in some sort of alternate reality the rules of physics change and we learly didn't see what we saw.... Zapruder had a bad camera angle as well. Just ask Arlen Specter (RIP) with a better angle you clearly see the fatal shot as coming from the Depository and not the grassy knoll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I think the measurement of ten yards is the yellow chain, not the bar that is holding the chain. They made it to the end of the chain. no way a ref would mess up that call. No, the first down is measured from the inside of the bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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